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All the passwords
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Harold Bell hhbell370@att.net [hercules-390]
2018-08-25 21:55:00 UTC
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I have spent Saturday afternoon researching the passwords for the various Herucles legal OS's and have a new webpage at https://www.vintagebigblue.org/defaultPasswords.php. If anybody checks on it and knows of any I have missed please let me know.

Regards

Buddy Bell
Vince Coen vbcoen@gmail.com [hercules-390]
2018-08-26 13:19:20 UTC
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Just tried that address but it is not valid.

Vince
Post by Harold Bell ***@att.net [hercules-390]
I have spent Saturday afternoon researching the passwords for the
various Herucles legal OS's and have a new webpage at
https://www.vintagebigblue.org/defaultPasswords.php. If anybody checks
on it and knows of any I have missed please let me know.
Regards
Buddy Bell
pade@trifox.com [hercules-390]
2018-08-27 14:58:06 UTC
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Worked yesterday and just now (8 am PDT) for me.
Paul
Kevin Monceaux Kevin@RawFedDogs.net [hercules-390]
2018-08-27 15:28:23 UTC
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Doesn't work for me! Instead a blank screen appears, then a couple
seconds later "Not Found" displays!
I wonder if it's a browser issue?
It's more likely a copy and paste issue. Did you try it without the . at
the end of the URL, as in:

https://www.vintagebigblue.org/defaultPasswords.php
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Ivan Warren ivan@vmfacility.fr [hercules-390]
2018-08-27 15:23:34 UTC
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Works for me.. Te contents without the ads is :

The userid/passwords for the original MVS TK3UPD by Volker Bandke are:

Userid Description Password

IBMUSER Emergency user none

HERC01 SysProg Userid none

HERC02 SysProgr Userid CUL8TR

HERC03 Standard user none

HERC04 Standard user PASS4U

The master catalog password is SECRET.

The userid/passwords for MVS TK4 update by Juergen Winkelmann are:

Userid Description Password

IBMUSER Emergency user IBMPASS

HERC01 Fully Authorized CUL8TR

HERC02 Fully Authorized CUL8TR

HERC03 Standard user PASS4U

HERC04 Standard user PASS4U

The userid/passwords for the VM/370 Six Pack are:

MAINT CPCMS

CMSUSER CMSUSER

The userid/passwords for MTS are:

UserID Password

mts aardvarks

acc aardvarks

st01 st01

The userid/passwords for MUSIC/SP are:

UserID Password

$000 music

--Ivan
Doesn't work for me! Instead a blank screen appears, then a couple seconds later "Not Found" displays!
I wonder if it's a browser issue?
Mario
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sccosel@yahoo.com [hercules-390]
2018-08-28 18:59:39 UTC
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Hi Buddy,


Thanks for all your efforts putting together the list. A couple of corrections and additions:


Corrections:


Official spelling of Juergen's name is: JÃŒrgen Winkelmann. You might ask him his preference.

Official name of the product released by him: TK4-



Additions:


The Online TK4- system described at this link: https://wotho4.ethz.ch/ https://wotho4.ethz.ch/
USERxx p/w PASSxx (xx = 01, ..., 04)




Thanks,
ScottC



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Works for me.. Te contents without the ads is :

The userid/passwords for the original MVS TK3UPD by Volker Bandke are:

Userid Description Password

IBMUSER Emergency user none

HERC01 SysProg Userid none

HERC02 SysProgr Userid CUL8TR

HERC03 Standard user none

HERC04 Standard user PASS4U

The master catalog password is SECRET.

The userid/passwords for MVS TK4 update by Juergen Winkelmann are:

Userid Description Password

IBMUSER Emergency user IBMPASS

HERC01 Fully Authorized CUL8TR

HERC02 Fully Authorized CUL8TR

HERC03 Standard user PASS4U

HERC04 Standard user PASS4U

The userid/passwords for the VM/370 Six Pack are:

MAINT CPCMS

CMSUSER CMSUSER

The userid/passwords for MTS are:

UserID Password

mts aardvarks

acc aardvarks

st01 st01

The userid/passwords for MUSIC/SP are:

UserID Password

$000 music

--Ivan
winkelmann@id.ethz.ch [hercules-390]
2018-08-30 00:04:43 UTC
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Post by ***@yahoo.com [hercules-390]
Official spelling of Juergen's name is: JÃŒrgen Winkelmann.
You might ask him his preference.
Thanks, Scott


Of course I prefer having my name spelled correctly, as shown by you above. However, I'm well aware that the German u-Umlaut "Ì" isn't present on many non German keyboards and I don't expect anybody to remember that on Windows systems one can just press and hold Alt while entering 129 on the numeric keypad to get it. So for me the other common spellings are fine to: Juergen or Jurgen.
Post by ***@yahoo.com [hercules-390]
Official name of the product released by him: TK4-
The Online TK4- system described at this link: https://wotho4.ethz.ch/ https://wotho4.ethz.ch/
USERxx p/w PASSxx (xx = 01, ..., 04)
It should be noted that I can't guarantee that the online system is always accessible. A tn3270 client that supports SSLv3 connections is required to connect.


There is very little activity on this system, which is at the same time my development system. Of course, everybody is welcome to log on to this system and to look around. In particular, most of the stuff that will be in Update 09 can be previewed there, but currently still without documentation. In general, one will be better off downloading the current (Update 8) system from http://wotho.ethz.ch/tk4- http://wotho.ethz.ch/tk4-/ and running it on local resources.


Cheers
JÃŒrgen
'Dave Wade' dave.g4ugm@gmail.com [hercules-390]
2018-08-30 08:34:07 UTC
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Post by ***@id.ethz.ch [hercules-390]
Post by ***@yahoo.com [hercules-390]
Official spelling of Juergen's name is: JÃŒrgen Winkelmann.
You might ask him his preference.
Thanks, Scott
Of course I prefer having my name spelled correctly, as shown by you above.. However, I'm well aware that the German u-Umlaut "Ì" isn't present on many non German keyboards and I don't expect anybody to remember that on Windows systems one can >just press and hold Alt while entering 129 on the numeric keypad to get it. So for me the other common spellings are fine to: Juergen or Jurgen.
This assumes you have a numeric keyboard. My Lenovo T430 does not have such a thing. Older ThinkPads have a “NumLock” that converts part of the main keyboard to being a numeric pad, but this is missing from the current models.

The On-Screen keyboard isn’t much help either. You can’t hold down “alt” for more than one keypress. I have to resort to the character mapper




Dave
Mike Schwab Mike.A.Schwab@gmail.com [hercules-390]
2018-08-30 14:36:40 UTC
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I use the US English International keyboard which combines special
character and Upper / lower case letter into one.
Post by ***@id.ethz.ch [hercules-390]
Post by ***@id.ethz.ch [hercules-390]
Post by ***@yahoo.com [hercules-390]
Official spelling of Juergen's name is: JÃŒrgen Winkelmann.
You might ask him his preference.
Thanks, Scott
Of course I prefer having my name spelled correctly, as shown by you
above. However, I'm well aware that the German u-Umlaut "Ì" isn't present
on many non German keyboards and I don't expect anybody to remember that on
Windows systems one can >just press and hold Alt while entering 129 on the
Juergen or Jurgen.
This assumes you have a numeric keyboard. My Lenovo T430 does not have
such a thing. Older ThinkPads have a “NumLock” that converts part of the
main keyboard to being a numeric pad, but this is missing from the current
models.
The On-Screen keyboard isn’t much help either. You can’t hold down “alt”
for more than one keypress. I have to resort to the character mapper

Dave
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Kevin Monceaux Kevin@RawFedDogs.net [hercules-390]
2018-08-30 14:47:44 UTC
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Post by Mike Schwab ***@gmail.com [hercules-390]
I use the US English International keyboard which combines special
character and Upper / lower case letter into one.
I use a compose key, which combines key sequences into accented characters,
such as <compose key> u " for ü, <compose key> c , for ç, <compose key> c |
for ¢, etc.
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'\'Fish\' (David B. Trout)' david.b.trout@gmail.com [hercules-390]
2018-08-30 19:34:28 UTC
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JÃŒrgen wrote:

[...]
Post by ***@id.ethz.ch [hercules-390]
to remember that on Windows systems one can just press
and hold Alt while entering 129 on the numeric keypad
to get it.
Odd. On my system it's Alt+252, not 129.

When I use the "Character Map" tool (Start->Programs->Accessories->System Tools->Character Map), it appears to *ALWAYS* be Alt+252, no matter which font or codepage I choose. (Although I'll admit I didn't try them all!)

It must be due to either the codepage or font or the installed language or the keyboard you're using, or something else entirely.

The only 'Alt' character I sometimes use is Alt+254 for constructing a smiley face of a confused person with their tongue hanging out, a la:

%-ß
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Gregg Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com [hercules-390]
2018-08-31 01:55:31 UTC
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Hello!
Well I use a USB keyboard on my laptop since the one used there is
showing its age.
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 3:34 PM, ''Fish' (David B. Trout)'
Post by '\'Fish\' (David B. Trout)' ***@gmail.com [hercules-390]
[...]
Post by ***@id.ethz.ch [hercules-390]
to remember that on Windows systems one can just press
and hold Alt while entering 129 on the numeric keypad
to get it.
Odd. On my system it's Alt+252, not 129.
When I use the "Character Map" tool (Start->Programs->Accessories->System Tools->Character Map), it appears to *ALWAYS* be Alt+252, no matter which font or codepage I choose. (Although I'll admit I didn't try them all!)
It must be due to either the codepage or font or the installed language or the keyboard you're using, or something else entirely.
%-ß
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Harold Bell hhbell370@att.net [hercules-390]
2018-08-27 19:53:54 UTC
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I just checked on the problem and found a couple of issues. It would not work on a mobile device - fixed - now it does.

Some people were in fact copying the period at the end of the sentence which caused a not found error - I modified the server to delete any trailing period from a URL - now that typo is acceptable and the page loads anyway.

Sorry

Regards

Buddy Bell


On Mon, 8/27/18, mario ***@yahoo.com [hercules-390] <hercules-***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [hercules-390] All the passwords
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 27, 2018, 11:08 AM


 









Doesn't work for me! Instead a blank screen
appears, then a couple seconds later "Not Found"
displays!



I wonder if it's a browser issue?



Mario











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Gregg Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com [hercules-390]
2018-08-27 20:54:21 UTC
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Hello!
And it works here, but you forgot a batch of them for VM/370rel6. You
have the ones from the later Six Pack, but not from the original one
that was provided to us by a chap named Bob A.
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Post by Harold Bell ***@att.net [hercules-390]
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I just checked on the problem and found a couple of issues. It would not work on a mobile device - fixed - now it does.
Some people were in fact copying the period at the end of the sentence which caused a not found error - I modified the server to delete any trailing period from a URL - now that typo is acceptable and the page loads anyway.
Sorry
Regards
Buddy Bell
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] All the passwords
Date: Monday, August 27, 2018, 11:08 AM
Doesn't work for me! Instead a blank screen
appears, then a couple seconds later "Not Found"
displays!
I wonder if it's a browser issue?
Mario
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mario iroc158@yahoo.com [hercules-390]
2018-08-28 02:14:12 UTC
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Kevin,

It was a browser issue on my end. I started to notice other odd behaviors, thus after an uninstall/reinstall,
plus a system reboot, and "voila" the site appears no problem ...........

Thanks, Mario
Florian Bilek florian.bilek@gmail.com [hercules-390]
2018-08-28 16:44:38 UTC
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Same for me. Unfortunately does not work.

BR Florian
Jeremy Nicoll yahgrp87@letterboxes.org [hercules-390]
2018-08-28 16:49:04 UTC
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Post by Florian Bilek ***@gmail.com [hercules-390]
Same for me. Unfortunately does not work.
Some email clients perhaps think the full-stop after the URL is part of it.
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Harold Bell hhbell370@att.net [hercules-390]
2018-08-28 21:53:15 UTC
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Hi Scott,

Made some adjustments to the page as per your suggestions.

Regards

Buddy Bell
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On Tue, 8/28/18, ***@yahoo.com [hercules-390] <hercules-***@yahoogroups..com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [hercules-390] All the passwords
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 2:59 PM


 









Hi Buddy,
Thanks for all your efforts putting
together the list.  A couple of corrections and
additions:
Corrections:
Official spelling of
Juergen's name is: JÃŒrgen Winkelmann. You might
ask him his preference.
Official name of the
product released by him: TK4-

Additions:
The Online TK4- system
described at this link: https://wotho4.ethz.ch/USERxx  p/w PASSxx 
(xx = 01, ..., 04)

Thanks,ScottC

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hercules-***@yahoogroups.com, <***@...> wrote :

Works for me.. Te
contents without the ads is :



The userid/passwords for the original MVS TK3UPD by Volker
Bandke are:



Userid Description Password



IBMUSER Emergency user none



HERC01 SysProg Userid none



HERC02 SysProgr Userid CUL8TR



HERC03 Standard user none



HERC04 Standard user PASS4U



The master catalog password is SECRET.



The userid/passwords for MVS TK4 update by Juergen
Winkelmann are:



Userid Description Password



IBMUSER Emergency user IBMPASS



HERC01 Fully Authorized CUL8TR



HERC02 Fully Authorized CUL8TR



HERC03 Standard user PASS4U



HERC04 Standard user PASS4U



The userid/passwords for the VM/370 Six Pack are:



MAINT CPCMS



CMSUSER CMSUSER



The userid/passwords for MTS are:



UserID Password



mts aardvarks



acc aardvarks



st01 st01



The userid/passwords for MUSIC/SP are:



UserID Password



$000 music



--Ivan












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Vince Coen vbcoen@gmail.com [hercules-390]
2018-08-28 23:31:14 UTC
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The info regarding Jurgen's online facility (it was not running earlier
this evening) are users created for use with the online version only.

They do not apply to the stock TK4.8 release although my systems do have
similar guest type users but with restricted access.

They are more for me to multi log in, remotely on an unsecured system's
to check logs, etc.

Vince
Post by Harold Bell ***@att.net [hercules-390]
Hi Scott,
Made some adjustments to the page as per your suggestions.
Regards
Buddy Bell
--------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] All the passwords
Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 2:59 PM
Hi Buddy,
Thanks for all your efforts putting
together the list.  A couple of corrections and
Official spelling of
Juergen's name is: JÃŒrgen Winkelmann. You might
ask him his preference.
Official name of the
product released by him: TK4-
The Online TK4- system
described at this link: https://wotho4.ethz.ch/USERxx  p/w PASSxx
(xx = 01, ..., 04)
Thanks,ScottC
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Works for me.. Te
The userid/passwords for the original MVS TK3UPD by Volker
Userid Description Password
IBMUSER Emergency user none
HERC01 SysProg Userid none
HERC02 SysProgr Userid CUL8TR
HERC03 Standard user none
HERC04 Standard user PASS4U
The master catalog password is SECRET.
The userid/passwords for MVS TK4 update by Juergen
Userid Description Password
IBMUSER Emergency user IBMPASS
HERC01 Fully Authorized CUL8TR
HERC02 Fully Authorized CUL8TR
HERC03 Standard user PASS4U
HERC04 Standard user PASS4U
MAINT CPCMS
CMSUSER CMSUSER
UserID Password
mts aardvarks
acc aardvarks
st01 st01
UserID Password
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Buddy,
Can I ask for some clarification on this list?
You have a "skeleton" entry for "Bob Abeles's VM/370 4 pack system".
It is my understanding (from Dave Wade's site) that Bob Abeles system was a 3 pack.
The 4 pack system was built by Andie Norrie.
The 5 pack system was built by Paul Gorinskey.
The 6 pack system was built by Robert O'Hara.
 
Looking at the release6.direct file on Bob Abeles vm370r6-essentials.tar.gz, the user/passwords are:-
OPERATOR OPERATOR
MAINT CPCMS
 
The 4 pack system has the same user/passwords.
The 5 pack system appears to have the same user/passwords as the 6 pack.
 
Chris
Harold Bell hhbell370@att.net [hercules-390]
2018-09-04 08:48:44 UTC
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Hi,

I have updated the page with the new information you provided. Thanks for the assist.

Regards

Buddy Bell



--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9/3/18, ***@yahoo.com [hercules-390] <hercules-***@yahoogroups..com> wrote:

Subject: [hercules-390] Re: All the passwords
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 3, 2018, 5:43 PM


 









Buddy,
Can I ask for some clarification on this list?
You have a "skeleton" entry for
"Bob Abeles's VM/370 4 pack
system".
It is my understanding (from Dave Wade's site)
that Bob Abeles system was a 3 pack.
The 4 pack system was built by Andie Norrie.
The 5 pack system was built by
Paul
Gorinskey.
The 6 pack
system was built by Robert
O'Hara.
 
Looking at the release6.direct file on Bob Abeles
vm370r6-essentials.tar.gz, the user/passwords are:-
OPERATOR OPERATOR
MAINT CPCMS
 
The 4 pack system has the same user/passwords.
The 5 pack system appears to have the same user/passwords
as the 6 pack.
 
Chris









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cjar1950@yahoo.com [hercules-390]
2018-09-03 21:40:21 UTC
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Buddy,
Can I ask for some clarification on this list?
You have a "skeleton" entry for "Bob Abeles's VM/370 4 pack system".
It is my understanding (from Dave Wade's site) that Bob Abeles system was a 3 pack.
The 4 pack system was built by Andie Norrie.
The 5 pack system was built by Paul Gorinskey.
The 6 pack system was built by Robert O'Hara.
 
Looking at the release6.direct file on Bob Abeles vm370r6-essentials.tar.gz, the user/passwords are:-
OPERATOR OPERATOR
MAINT CPCMS
 
The 4 pack system has the same user/passwords.
The 5 pack system appears to have the same user/passwords as the 6 pack.
 
Chris

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