Discussion:
Adventure on mvs
Alex
2005-11-05 11:14:07 UTC
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Hi there.

First off the bat let me say I have never used any type of mainframe
before.
I have been playing around for a little while, creating datasets &
reading what documentation that makes sense to me.

I am running the Turnkey Mainframe V3 on Suse linux & have downloaded
the adventure game from the files area of this group.

I was wondering if someone could write me a simple step by step
procedure on how to load & run this game ( & on which consoles to do what)

I have submited one of the JCLs at the hercules console using the
devinit command, but haven't got it to much more than that.
I'm assuming I not have to start it from a tso session?

Thanks in advance.
Alex








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Mike Cairns
2005-11-06 07:00:49 UTC
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I cannot tell you how to run/install the game - I haven't tried it myself.

I can tell you a few things that may help in general though.

If you have edited/created datasets then you're on your way. Installing
virtually anything in MVS requires the creation of some datasets and
populating them. They must of course be created with the correct attributes
to match their intended use - ie: load libraries have different attributes
to source libraries etc.

The game probably comes with some JCL - you would be well advised to study
the JCL user reference and learn to read JCL at a basic level at least.

Once you can read JCL - the installation is usually self-explanatory.

If you have submitted JCL - you need to examine the output of the batch job
and see what worked and what failed. Fix the failures and re-run the job
(or just parts of the job) again until the entire thing works.

My recollection of Adventure on a mainframe (from 20 yrs ago) is that it was
played under TSO - so yes, you will need to be in TSO. I would have thought
that you submit the jobs and view their output also in TSO.

The jobs most likely create a load library, that you will need to execute a
program from to start the game. That's usually all that is needed for
simple stuff in TSO.

Good luck

Mike Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org] On
Behalf Of Alex
Sent: Saturday, 5 November 2005 10:14 PM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [hercules-390] Adventure on mvs

Hi there.

First off the bat let me say I have never used any type of mainframe
before.
I have been playing around for a little while, creating datasets &
reading what documentation that makes sense to me.

I am running the Turnkey Mainframe V3 on Suse linux & have downloaded
the adventure game from the files area of this group.

I was wondering if someone could write me a simple step by step
procedure on how to load & run this game ( & on which consoles to do what)

I have submited one of the JCLs at the hercules console using the
devinit command, but haven't got it to much more than that.
I'm assuming I not have to start it from a tso session?

Thanks in advance.
Alex
Peter Vels
2005-11-08 09:11:35 UTC
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Hi Alex,

In the process of trying to help you I ran into my own problem today.
Perhaps someone can chime in and tell me how to fix this and then I will be
able to guide you through it the process of installing Colossal Cave in more
detail.

I downloaded the 53KB file "ADVENT for MVT and MVS.zip" from the Files
section of this board and followed the instructions in the file called
"advntdoc.txt" in the zip file. Everything seemed to install properly - all
return codes were 0 except for one 4 on the PL1 step - just some apparently
harmless informational messages.

Now for the problem. When I go to run the ADVENT clist I get:

IEA703I 806- 4 HERC01 IKJACCNT MODULE ACCESSED IBMBPIIA

I can't find a module called IBMBPIIA anywhere, and that is the problem. Is
there a PL1 runtime we're supposed to download as well? Can someone who's
gotten this to work please tell me what step(s) I missed?

Cheers,
Peter

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From: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org] On
Behalf Of Alex
Sent: Saturday, 5 November 2005 22:14
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [hercules-390] Adventure on mvs


Hi there.

First off the bat let me say I have never used any type of mainframe
before.
I have been playing around for a little while, creating datasets &
reading what documentation that makes sense to me.

I am running the Turnkey Mainframe V3 on Suse linux & have downloaded
the adventure game from the files area of this group.

I was wondering if someone could write me a simple step by step
procedure on how to load & run this game ( & on which consoles to do what)

I have submited one of the JCLs at the hercules console using the
devinit command, but haven't got it to much more than that.
I'm assuming I not have to start it from a tso session?

Thanks in advance.
Alex
Greg Price
2005-11-08 10:08:40 UTC
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Post by Peter Vels
IEA703I 806- 4 HERC01 IKJACCNT MODULE ACCESSED IBMBPIIA
Quelle domage! :)

Looks like you have an Adventure compiled by OS PL/I and not
the F-level PL/I.

OS PL/I compiler output gets link-edited with PLIBASE (residient library)
and requires PLILINK (transient library) to run. IBMBPIIA is the first
initialization module fetched from the transient library at run-time.

I believe F-Level PL/I needs no run-time library of its own, but then it
probably cannot compile some of the code that OS PL/I can.

I would not know if F-level PL/I (which came with OS/360 and should be
on the MVS TK3) can compile the PL/I version of the Adventure source or not.

Cheers,
Greg P.





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Peter Vels
2005-11-08 10:27:39 UTC
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Post by Greg Price
Post by Peter Vels
IEA703I 806- 4 HERC01 IKJACCNT MODULE ACCESSED IBMBPIIA
Quelle domage! :)
Looks like you have an Adventure compiled by OS PL/I and not
the F-level PL/I.
I compiled it using the supplied JCL and the compiler that came with
Volker's system which appears to be:

VERSION 5.5 OS/360 PL/I COMPILER (F)

Anyone out there got this to run?

Cheers,
Peter




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steve36020
2005-11-17 13:28:05 UTC
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Peter and Alex,

You need to have the PL/I transient (SYS1.PL1LIB) library in your TSO
user's STEPLIB or in the linklist.

On my MVS, I have it as the last dataset in LNKLST00 in SYS1.PARMLIB.

Steve
Post by Peter Vels
I compiled it using the supplied JCL and the compiler that came with
VERSION 5.5 OS/360 PL/I COMPILER (F)
Anyone out there got this to run?
Cheers,
Peter
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steve36020
2005-11-17 14:50:53 UTC
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P.S.

Without the run time library, on my MVS I get:

9.46.13 TSU 108 IEA703I 806- 4 STEVE IKJACCSP MODULE ACCESSED
IHEOPNA
9.46.13 TSU 108 IEA703I 806- 4 STEVE IKJACCSP MODULE ACCESSED
IHESTAA

As Greg mentioned, it looks like you have and ADVENT module that has
been compiled with later version of PL/I and that is what is being
invoked.

Steve
Post by Peter Vels
Post by Greg Price
Post by Peter Vels
IEA703I 806- 4 HERC01 IKJACCNT MODULE ACCESSED IBMBPIIA
Quelle domage! :)
Looks like you have an Adventure compiled by OS PL/I and not
the F-level PL/I.
I compiled it using the supplied JCL and the compiler that came with
VERSION 5.5 OS/360 PL/I COMPILER (F)
Anyone out there got this to run?
Cheers,
Peter
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steve36020
2005-11-17 16:24:24 UTC
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PPS

Peter,

In the Turnkey system there is a version module ADVENT in SYS2.CMDLIB
that must have been compiled with the OS PL/I Optimizing Compiler
(5734-PLI). This is what is causing your 806.

Sorry for all the seperate messages!

Steve
Post by Peter Vels
Post by Greg Price
Post by Peter Vels
IEA703I 806- 4 HERC01 IKJACCNT MODULE ACCESSED IBMBPIIA
Quelle domage! :)
Looks like you have an Adventure compiled by OS PL/I and not
the F-level PL/I.
I compiled it using the supplied JCL and the compiler that came with
VERSION 5.5 OS/360 PL/I COMPILER (F)
Anyone out there got this to run?
Cheers,
Peter
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Peter Vels
2005-11-19 11:13:40 UTC
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Steve,

You made my day. I got it running! Yay! Thanks.

Peter
Post by steve36020
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Peter,
In the Turnkey system there is a version module ADVENT in SYS2.CMDLIB
that must have been compiled with the OS PL/I Optimizing Compiler
(5734-PLI). This is what is causing your 806.
Sorry for all the seperate messages!
Steve
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steve36020
2005-11-21 12:01:13 UTC
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Peter,

Glad to be of help!

Steve
Post by Peter Vels
Steve,
You made my day. I got it running! Yay! Thanks.
Peter
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