david_dodds_2001
2006-07-14 20:11:17 UTC
I noticed that a little while ago there was some interest in having
SSP on our Hercules system. Having used SSP in a previous lifetime as
model making programmer, also FORTRAN and CSMP, I can appreciate the
nostalgia and also look forward to the time when I too can have an SSP
on my Hercules system. It would appear that the first steps to our
having the SSP are being undertaken by an SSP manual owner graciously
flat bed scanning his copy of the SSP manual, which IIRC showed the
Fortran source code for each function along with a writeup about it.
Having the SSP document, say in PDF form from Bitsavers, the text can
be converted into ascii by means of running an OCR program against the
images. That ascii can then be compiled with our MVS Fortran
compilers. I believe a PLI version was also mentioned and could be
compiled with our MVS PLI compiler.
Program Product and hence not available to hobbyists. In the era
slightly before CSMP there was DYNAMO (actually a series of DYNAMO
including a 370 and a Fortran version). DYNAMO was featured in the
Club of Rome Report and in the book Systems Dynamics. Dynamo still
exists and can be purchased from its original vendor (not me) but even
so I think that would rule it out running on our machine, because it
is a commercial product.
Still waxing nostalgic I also recall that in the days of yore of batch
mode computing RJE and CRJE / CRBE came along (we have RJE solution
available already for Hercules). I briefly used a system called WYLBUR
in those days of yore. There was a system; WYLBUR, ORVYL (MILTEN and
friends).
Stanford University has made WYLBUR (and friends) for MVS, available
at no cost. I wouldnt mind trying these things out on my Hercules
system. Perhaps there are others who might like to take a look at some
more nostalgia era stuff and so I have put the WYLBUR stuff into the
files repository. (As IKEA would say, some assembly is required.)
cheers
David Dodds
WYLBUR: an interactive text editing and remote job entry system
ABSTRACT
WYLBUR is a comprehensive system for manipulating all kinds of text,
such as computer programs, letters, and manuscripts, using typewriter
terminals connected to a computer. It has facilities for remote job
entry and retrieval as well as facilities for text alignment and
justification. A powerful method for addressing text by content is
provided. This paper describes the external appearance of WYLBUR as
well as its internal structure. A short description of the major
features of ORVYL, a general purpose time-sharing system which
operates in conjunction with WYLBUR, is also included. (I will upload
a PDF of the ACM document referred to here to the group at a later
period.)
Since "You may only upload files smaller than 5120K." to the Files
section anyone wanting to get the WYLBUR ORVYL.tgz file will get it
from: http://www.stanford.edu/dept/its/support/wylorv/WYLORV.tgz 43.4MB
SSP on our Hercules system. Having used SSP in a previous lifetime as
model making programmer, also FORTRAN and CSMP, I can appreciate the
nostalgia and also look forward to the time when I too can have an SSP
on my Hercules system. It would appear that the first steps to our
having the SSP are being undertaken by an SSP manual owner graciously
flat bed scanning his copy of the SSP manual, which IIRC showed the
Fortran source code for each function along with a writeup about it.
Having the SSP document, say in PDF form from Bitsavers, the text can
be converted into ascii by means of running an OCR program against the
images. That ascii can then be compiled with our MVS Fortran
compilers. I believe a PLI version was also mentioned and could be
compiled with our MVS PLI compiler.
From a similar nostalgic state I would also like to have IBM's CSMP
available on my Hercules system, but I believe that CSMP was / is? aProgram Product and hence not available to hobbyists. In the era
slightly before CSMP there was DYNAMO (actually a series of DYNAMO
including a 370 and a Fortran version). DYNAMO was featured in the
Club of Rome Report and in the book Systems Dynamics. Dynamo still
exists and can be purchased from its original vendor (not me) but even
so I think that would rule it out running on our machine, because it
is a commercial product.
Still waxing nostalgic I also recall that in the days of yore of batch
mode computing RJE and CRJE / CRBE came along (we have RJE solution
available already for Hercules). I briefly used a system called WYLBUR
in those days of yore. There was a system; WYLBUR, ORVYL (MILTEN and
friends).
Stanford University has made WYLBUR (and friends) for MVS, available
at no cost. I wouldnt mind trying these things out on my Hercules
system. Perhaps there are others who might like to take a look at some
more nostalgia era stuff and so I have put the WYLBUR stuff into the
files repository. (As IKEA would say, some assembly is required.)
cheers
David Dodds
WYLBUR: an interactive text editing and remote job entry system
ABSTRACT
WYLBUR is a comprehensive system for manipulating all kinds of text,
such as computer programs, letters, and manuscripts, using typewriter
terminals connected to a computer. It has facilities for remote job
entry and retrieval as well as facilities for text alignment and
justification. A powerful method for addressing text by content is
provided. This paper describes the external appearance of WYLBUR as
well as its internal structure. A short description of the major
features of ORVYL, a general purpose time-sharing system which
operates in conjunction with WYLBUR, is also included. (I will upload
a PDF of the ACM document referred to here to the group at a later
period.)
Since "You may only upload files smaller than 5120K." to the Files
section anyone wanting to get the WYLBUR ORVYL.tgz file will get it
from: http://www.stanford.edu/dept/its/support/wylorv/WYLORV.tgz 43.4MB