[hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook

['Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' [e-mail] [hercules-390]]

I have an old hardcopy Redbook from ITSC:

3174 Establishement Controller/Network Server Installation Guide.

It’s a rather large book with all things related to connectivity of 3174.

Over 800 pages of good info. If anyone needs it, let me know.

Maybe the folks that scan manuals may be interested.

zN



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Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 1:01 PM
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Looking for a real 3270 terminal

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A very nice guy in the Netherlands (where I live) gave me a stack
of hardware to make this all possible.
And yes, it means going from BNC via a 3274 unit to TR to a TR hub
to a Cisco for TR-ETH routing to my PC or raspberry pi.
It looks like in the attachments.
I cleaned up the keyboard and got me some nice blue Ethernet cables
to make it a sort of mobile demonstration setup.
I'm still in the process of fiddling with it though.

That sounds like a reasonable configuration. The pics didn't make it
through; I'd love to see them if you can post them somewhere.
What model of 3274 are you using?

I didn’t realize that the 3274 was capable of TCP/IP. I thought it
would only do SNA over TR. I’ve been using 3174s (and -6x or -x1
models) for precisely this reason.

Yes, hence my question. ;)

I suspect it was a typo....

-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

[Dave McGuire [e-mail] [hercules-390]]

On 04/16/2018 01:02 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
3174 Establishement Controller/Network Server Installation Guide.
It’s a rather large book with all things related to connectivity of 3174.
Over 800 pages of good info.  If anyone needs it, let me know.
Maybe the folks that scan manuals may be interested.

I can have that scanned here at LSSM, depending on how it's bound.

-Dave

['Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' [e-mail] [hercules-390]]

Typical Redbook binding- glued edge. It does come apart for scanning.

Not sure how valuable the info is.



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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:24 AM
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook





On 04/16/2018 01:02 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
3174 Establishement Controller/Network Server Installation Guide.
It’s a rather large book with all things related to connectivity of 3174.
Over 800 pages of good info. If anyone needs it, let me know.
Maybe the folks that scan manuals may be interested.

I can have that scanned here at LSSM, depending on how it's bound.

-Dave

[Dave McGuire [e-mail] [hercules-390]]

It's valuable. I worked for months (literally months) to get my setup
working. All the info that I pieced together from a dozen different
places is probably in that book. A lot of people want to set that stuff up.

-Dave

On 04/16/2018 01:47 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Typical Redbook binding- glued edge.  It does come apart for scanning.
Not sure how valuable the info is. 
 
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:24 AM
*Subject:* Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
 
 
On 04/16/2018 01:02 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
3174 Establishement Controller/Network Server Installation Guide.
It’s a rather large book with all things related to connectivity of 3174.
Over 800 pages of good info.  If anyone needs it, let me know.
Maybe the folks that scan manuals may be interested.

I can have that scanned here at LSSM, depending on how it's bound.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

['Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' [e-mail] [hercules-390]]

OK- where do I send it. Just want an electronic version in return




From: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com <hercules-***@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:56 AM
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook






It's valuable. I worked for months (literally months) to get my setup
working. All the info that I pieced together from a dozen different
places is probably in that book. A lot of people want to set that stuff up...

-Dave

On 04/16/2018 01:47 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
Typical Redbook binding- glued edge. It does come apart for scanning.
Not sure how valuable the info is.
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:24 AM
*Subject:* Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
On 04/16/2018 01:02 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
3174 Establishement Controller/Network Server Installation Guide.
It’s a rather large book with all things related to connectivity of 3174.
Over 800 pages of good info. If anyone needs it, let me know..
Maybe the folks that scan manuals may be interested.

I can have that scanned here at LSSM, depending on how it's bound.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

['Dave Wade' [e-mail] [hercules-390]]

What is the manual number?



Dave



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Sent: 16 April 2018 20:00
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook








OK- where do I send it. Just want an electronic version in return




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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:56 AM
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook






It's valuable. I worked for months (literally months) to get my setup
working. All the info that I pieced together from a dozen different
places is probably in that book. A lot of people want to set that stuff up...

-Dave

On 04/16/2018 01:47 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
Typical Redbook binding- glued edge. It does come apart for scanning.
Not sure how valuable the info is.
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:24 AM
*Subject:* Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
On 04/16/2018 01:02 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
3174 Establishement Controller/Network Server Installation Guide.
It’s a rather large book with all things related to connectivity of 3174.
Over 800 pages of good info. If anyone needs it, let me know..
Maybe the folks that scan manuals may be interested.

I can have that scanned here at LSSM, depending on how it's bound.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

['Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' [e-mail] [hercules-390]]

GG24-3061-05 November 1994



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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:27 PM
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook





What is the manual number?



Dave



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Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook









OK- where do I send it. Just want an electronic version in return




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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:56 AM
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-***@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook






It's valuable. I worked for months (literally months) to get my setup
working. All the info that I pieced together from a dozen different
places is probably in that book. A lot of people want to set that stuff up...

-Dave

On 04/16/2018 01:47 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
Typical Redbook binding- glued edge. It does come apart for scanning.
Not sure how valuable the info is.
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:24 AM
*Subject:* Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
On 04/16/2018 01:02 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
3174 Establishement Controller/Network Server Installation Guide.
It’s a rather large book with all things related to connectivity of 3174..
Over 800 pages of good info. If anyone needs it, let me know..
Maybe the folks that scan manuals may be interested.

I can have that scanned here at LSSM, depending on how it's bound.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

['Dave Wade' [e-mail] [hercules-390]]

I am sure I had a copy somewhere, but I can’t find it 




Dave



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Sent: 16 April 2018 21:39
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook








GG24-3061-05 November 1994



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What is the manual number?



Dave



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OK- where do I send it. Just want an electronic version in return




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Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook






It's valuable. I worked for months (literally months) to get my setup
working. All the info that I pieced together from a dozen different
places is probably in that book. A lot of people want to set that stuff up...

-Dave

On 04/16/2018 01:47 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
Typical Redbook binding- glued edge. It does come apart for scanning.
Not sure how valuable the info is.
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:24 AM
*Subject:* Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
On 04/16/2018 01:02 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
3174 Establishement Controller/Network Server Installation Guide.
It’s a rather large book with all things related to connectivity of 3174..
Over 800 pages of good info. If anyone needs it, let me know..
Maybe the folks that scan manuals may be interested.

I can have that scanned here at LSSM, depending on how it's bound.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

[Dave McGuire [e-mail] [hercules-390]]

Are you aware of that one existing in a digital format anywhere? I
don't want to have one of my guys feed 800 pages through the scanner if
it's not required. ;)

-Dave

Post by 'Dave Wade' ***@gmail.com [hercules-390]
 
I am sure I had a copy somewhere, but I can’t find it 

 
Dave
 
*Sent:* 16 April 2018 21:39
*Subject:* RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
 
GG24-3061-05  November 1994
 
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 1:27 PM
*Subject:* RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
 
 
What is the manual number?
 
Dave
 
*Sent:* 16 April 2018 20:00
*Subject:* RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
 
OK- where do I send it.  Just want an electronic version in return

 
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:56 AM
*Subject:* Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
 
 
It's valuable. I worked for months (literally months) to get my setup
working. All the info that I pieced together from a dozen different
places is probably in that book. A lot of people want to set that stuff up..
-Dave
On 04/16/2018 01:47 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Typical Redbook binding- glued edge.  It does come apart for scanning.
Not sure how valuable the info is. 
 
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:24 AM
*Subject:* Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
 
 
On 04/16/2018 01:02 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
3174 Establishement Controller/Network Server Installation Guide.
It’s a rather large book with all things related to connectivity of 3174..
Over 800 pages of good info.  If anyone needs it, let me know..
Maybe the folks that scan manuals may be interested.

I can have that scanned here at LSSM, depending on how it's bound.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
 
 

['Dave Wade' [e-mail] [hercules-390]]

Found it. Pretty sure it used to be on the Red Books site. Uploaded to the group files section.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/hercules-390/files/3174/

Dave

-----Original Message-----
Sent: 16 April 2018 21:57
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
Are you aware of that one existing in a digital format anywhere? I don't
want to have one of my guys feed 800 pages through the scanner if it's not
required. ;)
-Dave
390]

Post by 'Dave Wade' ***@gmail.com [hercules-390]
I am sure I had a copy somewhere, but I can’t find it 

Dave
*Sent:* 16 April 2018 21:39
*Subject:* RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
GG24-3061-05 November 1994
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 1:27 PM
*Subject:* RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
What is the manual number?
Dave
*Sent:* 16 April 2018 20:00
*Subject:* RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
OK- where do I send it. Just want an electronic version in return

*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:56 AM
*Subject:* Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
It's valuable. I worked for months (literally months) to get my setup
working. All the info that I pieced together from a dozen different
places is probably in that book. A lot of people want to set that stuff up..
-Dave
On 04/16/2018 01:47 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
Typical Redbook binding- glued edge. It does come apart for scanning.
Not sure how valuable the info is.
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:24 AM
*Subject:* Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
On 04/16/2018 01:02 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
3174 Establishement Controller/Network Server Installation Guide.
It’s a rather large book with all things related to connectivity of 3174..
Over 800 pages of good info. If anyone needs it, let me know..
Maybe the folks that scan manuals may be interested.

I can have that scanned here at LSSM, depending on how it's bound.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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Post by Dave McGuire ***@neurotica.com [hercules-390]
Are you aware of that one existing in a digital format anywhere? I
don't want to have one of my guys feed 800 pages through the scanner if
it's not required. ;)

There are scanning services that will do either destructive (they saw off
the binding) or much more expensive non-destructive scanning. A friend
suggested these three to me last year:

http://www.blueleaf-book-scanning.com/
http://1dollarscan.com/
http://bookscan.us/

I understand there is cheap (subsidized) book shipping within the US, so if
you're both there one of these might be quite cheap if you don't need the
original back.

Tony H.

[Dave McGuire [e-mail] [hercules-390]]

  Are you aware of that one existing in a digital format anywhere?  I
don't want to have one of my guys feed 800 pages through the scanner if
it's not required. ;)
There are scanning services that will do either destructive (they saw
off the binding) or much more expensive non-destructive scanning. A

We have an archival scanning operation set up here at LSSM. We just
have approximately 1.5 tons of material waiting for the scanner and I
don't want to add to it if I don't have to. ;)

-Dave

['Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' [e-mail] [hercules-390]]

No, I don’t. That’s why I offered it.





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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:57 PM
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook






Are you aware of that one existing in a digital format anywhere? I
don't want to have one of my guys feed 800 pages through the scanner if
it's not required. ;)

-Dave

Post by 'Dave Wade' ***@gmail.com [hercules-390]
I am sure I had a copy somewhere, but I can’t find it 

Dave
*Sent:* 16 April 2018 21:39
*Subject:* RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
GG24-3061-05 November 1994
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 1:27 PM
*Subject:* RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
What is the manual number?
Dave
*Sent:* 16 April 2018 20:00
*Subject:* RE: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
OK- where do I send it. Just want an electronic version in return

*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:56 AM
*Subject:* Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
It's valuable. I worked for months (literally months) to get my setup
working. All the info that I pieced together from a dozen different
places is probably in that book. A lot of people want to set that stuff up..
-Dave
On 04/16/2018 01:47 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
Typical Redbook binding- glued edge. It does come apart for scanning.
Not sure how valuable the info is.
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:24 AM
*Subject:* Re: [hercules-390] Slightly Related- 3174 Redbook
On 04/16/2018 01:02 PM, 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz'

Post by 'Norman Hollander on Desertwiz' ***@desertwiz.biz [hercules-390]
3174 Establishement Controller/Network Server Installation Guide.
It’s a rather large book with all things related to connectivity of 3174..
Over 800 pages of good info. If anyone needs it, let me know..
Maybe the folks that scan manuals may be interested.

I can have that scanned here at LSSM, depending on how it's bound.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA