That was probably somewhere between "and more." and "If everything is down."
"And more" could amount to a lot of things, depending on the products used
in one's shop. Before the mainframe was retired where I work, "and more"
included IMS, TCP/IP, CA-7, CAL-7, CA-Dispatch, TMON, and AF/Operator, to
name a few. Oh how I miss our mainframe and some of those products.
What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.