Discussion:
***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)
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Quasar Chunawala
2010-07-29 01:45:24 UTC
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Dear friends,

I am trying to set up zOS ADCD V1.4 on Hercules. I have the following *Hercules
Configuration file.*
*
*
*Hercules.conf

*
#
# Configuration file for Hercules & IBM ADCD z/OS 1.3 CDs
#

CPUSERIAL 000000 # CPU serial number
CPUMODEL 9672 # CPU model number
MAINSIZE 256 # Main storage size in megabytes
XPNDSIZE 0 # Expanded storage size in megabytes
CNSLPORT 3270 # TCP port number to which consoles connect
HTTPPORT 8081 # HTTP server
NUMCPU 1 # Number of CPUs
NUMVEC 1 # Vector facilities emulated
TZOFFSET +0500
OSTAILOR OS/390 # OS tailoring
PANRATE FAST # Panel refresh rate
ARCHMODE ESAME # Architecture mode S/370, ESA/390 or ESAME
PGMPRDOS LICENSED # Allow OS/390 and Z/OS systems to run

#
# IPL parameter
#
LOADPARM 0A8000 # IPL parameter

#
# xx : one of the following :
#
# CS CLPA and cold start of JES2. Base z/OS system functions i.e. no CICS,
DB2, IMS, WAS, etc.
# 00 Warm start of JES2. Base z/OS system functions i.e. no CICS, DB2, IMS,
WAS, etc.
# WS Warm start of JES2. Base z/OS system functions i.e. no CICS, DB2, IMS,
WAS, etc.
# DC CLPA, brings in CICS LPA modules, cold start of JES2, starts up DB2 and
CICS.
# DB Warmstart of JES2 and starts the DB2 and CICS.
# DI CLPA and cold start of JES2 and loads the IMS Libraries. IMS must be
manually started.
# CC CLPA and cold start of JES2, loads the CICS Libraries, starts up CICS,
no DB2.
# CW Warm start of JES2, and starts up CICS.
# 2C CLPA, cold start of JES2, starts up DB2, no CICS.
# 2W Warm start of JES2, starts up DB2, no CICS.
# IC CLPA and cold start of JES2 and load the IMS Libraries, start IMS, no
DB2 or CICS.
# IW Warm start of JES2 start IMS, no DB2 or CICS.
# AC CLPA and cold start of JES2 load IMS and CICS libraries, start IMS,
DB/2, and CICS.
# AW Warmstart of JES2. start IMS, DB/2, and CICS.
# BC CLPA and cold start of JES2, load WAS libraries, WAS is manually
started
# BW Warmstart of JES2. WAS is manually started.
# 99 Points to IODF99 for IPL on MP3000. Reply 00,SYSP=xx were xx is any of
the above options i.e. for cics only xx=cc or #cw.

#
# Device list
#
#--- ---- --------------------
0700 3270
0701 3270
0702 3270
0900 3270
0901 3270
0A80 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4res1.a80"
0A81 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4res2.a81"
0A82 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/os39m1.a82"
0A83 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4db21.a83"
0A84 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4cic1.a84"
0A85 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4dis1.a85"
0A86 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4dis2.a86"
0A87 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4uss1.a87"
0A88 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4dis3.a88"
0A89 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4ims1.a89"
0A8A 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4was1.a8a"
0A8B 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4was2.a8b"
0A8C 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/sares1.a8c"
0A8D 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4dis4.a8d"
0A8F 3390 "D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/saipl1.a8f"

When I try to *start Hercules*, with this *Configuration file*, I get
the *following
messages*. I guess the *DASD's *are *hooked up correctly.* I am not able to
figure which is the *volume *to IPL from?

HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4res1.a80 cyls=3339 heads=15 tracks=50085
tr+
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4res2.a81 cyls=3339 heads=15 tracks=50085
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/os39m1.a82 cyls=3339 heads=15 tracks=50085
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4db21.a83 cyls=3339 heads=15 tracks=50085
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4cic1.a84 cyls=2226 heads=15 tracks=33390
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4dis1.a85 cyls=3339 heads=15 tracks=50085
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4dis2.a86 cyls=3339 heads=15 tracks=50085
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4uss1.a87 cyls=3339 heads=15 tracks=50085
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4dis3.a88 cyls=3339 heads=15 tracks=50085
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4ims1.a89 cyls=2226 heads=15 tracks=33390
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4was1.a8a cyls=3339 heads=15 tracks=50085
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4was2.a8b cyls=3339 heads=15 tracks=50085
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/sares1.a8c cyls=3339 heads=15 tracks=50085
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/s4dis4.a8d cyls=3339 heads=15 tracks=50085
trk
HHCDA020I D:/zOS ADCD Images/dasd/saipl1.a8f cyls=10 heads=15 tracks=150
trklen=
HHCCF069I Run-options enabled for this run:
NUMCPU: 1
ASN-and-LX-reuse: DISabled
DIAG8CMD: DISabled
HHCCP002I CPU0000 thread started: tid=0000151C, pid=680, priority=15
HHCCP003I CPU0000 architecture mode z/Arch
HHCTT002I Timer thread started: tid=00000278, pid=680, priority=0
HHCHT001I HTTP listener thread started: tid=0000179C, pid=680
HHCHT013I Using HTTPROOT directory "D:\zOS ADCD Images\Hercules\html\"
HHCHT006I Waiting for HTTP requests on port 8081
HHCPN001I Control panel thread started: tid=00000F58, pid=680
HHCAO001I Hercules Automatic Operator thread started;
tid=00000A74, pri=0, pid=680
HHCTE009I Client 127.0.0.1 connected to 3270 device 0:0700
HHCTE009I Client 127.0.0.1 connected to 3270 device 0:0701

This is what happens when I type* IPL A80*, on the Hercules console. Please
help, as to how do I IPL the correct volume? Do I need to set *some
LOADPARM?*

*HHCCP007I CPU0000 architecture mode set to ESA/390*
*HHCCP014I CPU0000: Special-operation exception CODE=0013 ILC=4*
*PSW=00080000 80000606 INST=B2790000 SACF 0(0)
set_address*
*R:00000000:K:06=00080000 800005EC 40404040 F0F04040 ........ 00*
*GR00=00000000 GR01=00000000 GR02=00000000 GR03=00000000*
*GR04=00000000 GR05=00000000 GR06=00000000 GR07=00000000*
*GR08=00000000 GR09=00000000 GR10=00000000 GR11=00000000*
*GR12=00000000 GR13=00000000 GR14=00000000 GR15=00000000*
*CR00=01B00200 CR01=00000000 CR02=00000000 CR03=00000000*
*CR04=00000000 CR05=00000000 CR06=FE000000 CR07=00000000*
*CR08=00000000 CR09=00000000 CR10=00000000 CR11=00000000*
*CR12=00000000 CR13=00000000 CR14=C2000000 CR15=00000000*
*HHCCD001I Readahead thread 1 started: tid=00001280, pid=680*
*HHCCD001I Readahead thread 2 started: tid=000012C0, pid=680*
*HHCCP011I CPU0000: Disabled wait state*
* PSW=000A0000 00000088*

Thanking you,

I am,

Yours sincerely,

*Quasar S. Chunawala,*
*http://www.mainframes360.com*


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paoloG
2010-07-29 05:39:23 UTC
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Post by Quasar Chunawala
Dear friends,
I am trying to set up zOS ADCD V1.4 on Hercules. I have the following *Hercules
Configuration file.*
*
*
*Hercules.conf
*
#
# Configuration file for Hercules & IBM ADCD z/OS 1.3 CDs
#
CPUSERIAL 000000 # CPU serial number
CPUMODEL 9672 # CPU model number
MAINSIZE 256 # Main storage size in megabytes
XPNDSIZE 0 # Expanded storage size in megabytes
CNSLPORT 3270 # TCP port number to which consoles connect
HTTPPORT 8081 # HTTP server
NUMCPU 1 # Number of CPUs
NUMVEC 1 # Vector facilities emulated
TZOFFSET +0500
OSTAILOR OS/390 # OS tailoring
PANRATE FAST # Panel refresh rate
ARCHMODE ESAME # Architecture mode S/370, ESA/390 or ESAME
PGMPRDOS LICENSED # Allow OS/390 and Z/OS systems to run
#
# IPL parameter
#
LOADPARM 0A8000 # IPL parameter
Try with:

LOADPARM 0A82CS..

IPL from 0A80 is correct.

Regards.

Paul
Rocky
2010-07-29 15:53:26 UTC
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I believe you are going to have a lot of problems geting rid of the message.
Please let us know if you succeed. I had a similar problem using ADCD and
the resoultion was not as simple as everyone is saying.

I think the ADCD system that you are using was generated to work in a
SYSPLEX.
There is some kind of conflict involved.

I remenber that I eventually created a completely new LOGREC data set- -
(also not simple) called it LOGREC1 (made it bigger at the same time). Then
I changed the system confifuratin to point to that data st
and then RE-IPL'd.

After that it worked fine and the normal solutions that were suggested
worked - Don't remeber exactly how I created bui Ido remember that also is
an issue.

But my experience was that until I created a new logrec dataset and changed
the definitions in the system configuration I couldn't get it to work.
Pretty sure that it has something to do with the SYSPLEX.

Roc


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From: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org] On
Behalf Of paoloG
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 08:39
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)
Post by Quasar Chunawala
Dear friends,
I am trying to set up zOS ADCD V1.4 on Hercules. I have the following *Hercules
Configuration file.*
*
*
*Hercules.conf
*
#
# Configuration file for Hercules & IBM ADCD z/OS 1.3 CDs
#
CPUSERIAL 000000 # CPU serial number
CPUMODEL 9672 # CPU model number
MAINSIZE 256 # Main storage size in megabytes
XPNDSIZE 0 # Expanded storage size in megabytes
CNSLPORT 3270 # TCP port number to which consoles connect
HTTPPORT 8081 # HTTP server
NUMCPU 1 # Number of CPUs
NUMVEC 1 # Vector facilities emulated
TZOFFSET +0500
OSTAILOR OS/390 # OS tailoring
PANRATE FAST # Panel refresh rate
ARCHMODE ESAME # Architecture mode S/370, ESA/390 or ESAME
PGMPRDOS LICENSED # Allow OS/390 and Z/OS systems to run
#
# IPL parameter
#
LOADPARM 0A8000 # IPL parameter
Try with:

LOADPARM 0A82CS..

IPL from 0A80 is correct.

Regards.

Paul







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brian_westerman
2010-07-31 00:35:06 UTC
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Hi,

You have several problems in your config, that you should fix, but don't really have to. The proper response to the outstanding reply you're getting is "R 00,I" (sans quotes), the 00 is zero-zero not letter o's.

Now to the config changes:

ARCHMODE z/Arch (not ESAME)
CPUMODEL 2086 (or some other z/series box, not 9672, there are other problems that you will run into later)
MAINSIZE 1536 (or as much memory as you can spare 256 is hard enough on REAL hardware).
OSTAILOR Z/OS (not os/390)

Unless you have some really good reason, a lot of extra time, or a death wish, you should also remove the NUMVEC line completely. I doubt that you really want (or need) one.

Once you IPL, (assuming you use the CS - coldstart parm someone else suggested), you will see that not only do you have to initialize the sysplex, which in you case the sysplex is a MONOPLEX, and that is completely normal. You're sysplex ID with the ADCD is going to be ADCD. You will also notice that JES2 will also cold start. In the future (after this first startup and when you shut it down), I suggest that you change your loadparm from "0A82CS.." to either "0A8200M." or "0A8299M." depending on whether you are using SYS1.IODF00 or SYS1.IODF99 (and load00 or load99) to match your hardware definition. Otherwise, every time you IPL, you will wipe out all of your spool output from the previous run.

If you look at the document that came with the ADCD you will see these steps are all laid out (except for the config stuff) very well. If you don't have the document, let me know and I'll send you one. The multiple UserID's and passwords are all outlined in the same document, there are quite a few, (20+) aside from IBMUSER. I'd send the password to you in this message, but you would be surprised how many sites leave IBMUSER at the default, and it would be kind of crappy to have some 12-year-old get hold of it (I'm sure they could guess it anyway), but I don't want to be the one to provide it to him/her.

All of this is assuming that you acquired the ADCD volumes in some legal manner (I hope):) .
Post by Rocky
I believe you are going to have a lot of problems geting rid of the message.
Please let us know if you succeed. I had a similar problem using ADCD and
the resoultion was not as simple as everyone is saying.
I think the ADCD system that you are using was generated to work in a
SYSPLEX.
There is some kind of conflict involved.
I remenber that I eventually created a completely new LOGREC data set- -
(also not simple) called it LOGREC1 (made it bigger at the same time). Then
I changed the system confifuratin to point to that data st
and then RE-IPL'd.
After that it worked fine and the normal solutions that were suggested
worked - Don't remeber exactly how I created bui Ido remember that also is
an issue.
But my experience was that until I created a new logrec dataset and changed
the definitions in the system configuration I couldn't get it to work.
Pretty sure that it has something to do with the SYSPLEX.
Roc
_____
Behalf Of paoloG
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 08:39
Subject: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)
Post by Quasar Chunawala
Dear friends,
I am trying to set up zOS ADCD V1.4 on Hercules. I have the following
*Hercules
Post by Quasar Chunawala
Configuration file.*
*
*
*Hercules.conf
*
#
# Configuration file for Hercules & IBM ADCD z/OS 1.3 CDs
#
CPUSERIAL 000000 # CPU serial number
CPUMODEL 9672 # CPU model number
MAINSIZE 256 # Main storage size in megabytes
XPNDSIZE 0 # Expanded storage size in megabytes
CNSLPORT 3270 # TCP port number to which consoles connect
HTTPPORT 8081 # HTTP server
NUMCPU 1 # Number of CPUs
NUMVEC 1 # Vector facilities emulated
TZOFFSET +0500
OSTAILOR OS/390 # OS tailoring
PANRATE FAST # Panel refresh rate
ARCHMODE ESAME # Architecture mode S/370, ESA/390 or ESAME
PGMPRDOS LICENSED # Allow OS/390 and Z/OS systems to run
#
# IPL parameter
#
LOADPARM 0A8000 # IPL parameter
LOADPARM 0A82CS..
IPL from 0A80 is correct.
Regards.
Paul
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Jay Maynard
2010-07-31 00:43:26 UTC
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Post by brian_westerman
ARCHMODE z/Arch (not ESAME)
Either is legal.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!)
Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390
Quasar Chunawala
2010-07-29 19:03:17 UTC
Permalink
Friends,

After changing the configuration, I am getting this -

IEE600I REPLY TO 00 IS;
IXC208I THE RESPONSE TO MESSAGE IXC420D IS INCORRECT: IS NOT A VALID
ACTION
| IXC420D REPLY I TO INITIALIZE SYSPLEX ADCDPL, OR R TO REINITIALIZE XCF.
REPLYING I WILL IMPACT OTHER ACTIVE SYSTEMS.
R I
| IEE279A REPLY I IGNORED; NON DECIMAL ID. SPECIFY REPLY 00.

IEE600I REPLY TO 00 IS;
IXC208I THE RESPONSE TO MESSAGE IXC420D IS INCORRECT: IS NOT A VALID
ACTION
IXC420D REPLY I TO INITIALIZE SYSPLEX ADCDPL, OR R TO REINITIALIZE XCF.
REPLYING I WILL IMPACT OTHER ACTIVE SYSTEMS.
Post by Quasar Chunawala
Post by Quasar Chunawala
Dear friends,
I am trying to set up zOS ADCD V1.4 on Hercules. I have the following
*Hercules
Post by Quasar Chunawala
Configuration file.*
*
*
*Hercules.conf
*
#
# Configuration file for Hercules & IBM ADCD z/OS 1.3 CDs
#
CPUSERIAL 000000 # CPU serial number
CPUMODEL 9672 # CPU model number
MAINSIZE 256 # Main storage size in megabytes
XPNDSIZE 0 # Expanded storage size in megabytes
CNSLPORT 3270 # TCP port number to which consoles connect
HTTPPORT 8081 # HTTP server
NUMCPU 1 # Number of CPUs
NUMVEC 1 # Vector facilities emulated
TZOFFSET +0500
OSTAILOR OS/390 # OS tailoring
PANRATE FAST # Panel refresh rate
ARCHMODE ESAME # Architecture mode S/370, ESA/390 or ESAME
PGMPRDOS LICENSED # Allow OS/390 and Z/OS systems to run
#
# IPL parameter
#
LOADPARM 0A8000 # IPL parameter
LOADPARM 0A82CS..
IPL from 0A80 is correct.
Regards.
Paul
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Quasar Chunawala
2010-07-29 19:08:43 UTC
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*Folks - *
*
*
*Attached herewith is the screenshot, when I type IPL A80.*
*
*
*Thanks,*
*
*
*Quasar S. Chunawala*
*http://www.mainframes360.com
*
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Quasar Chunawala <
Post by Quasar Chunawala
Friends,
After changing the configuration, I am getting this -
IEE600I REPLY TO 00 IS;
IXC208I THE RESPONSE TO MESSAGE IXC420D IS INCORRECT: IS NOT A VALID
ACTION
| IXC420D REPLY I TO INITIALIZE SYSPLEX ADCDPL, OR R TO REINITIALIZE XCF.
REPLYING I WILL IMPACT OTHER ACTIVE SYSTEMS.
R I
| IEE279A REPLY I IGNORED; NON DECIMAL ID. SPECIFY REPLY 00.
IEE600I REPLY TO 00 IS;
IXC208I THE RESPONSE TO MESSAGE IXC420D IS INCORRECT: IS NOT A VALID
ACTION
IXC420D REPLY I TO INITIALIZE SYSPLEX ADCDPL, OR R TO REINITIALIZE XCF.
REPLYING I WILL IMPACT OTHER ACTIVE SYSTEMS.
Post by Quasar Chunawala
Post by Quasar Chunawala
Dear friends,
I am trying to set up zOS ADCD V1.4 on Hercules. I have the following
*Hercules
Post by Quasar Chunawala
Configuration file.*
*
*
*Hercules.conf
*
#
# Configuration file for Hercules & IBM ADCD z/OS 1.3 CDs
#
CPUSERIAL 000000 # CPU serial number
CPUMODEL 9672 # CPU model number
MAINSIZE 256 # Main storage size in megabytes
XPNDSIZE 0 # Expanded storage size in megabytes
CNSLPORT 3270 # TCP port number to which consoles connect
HTTPPORT 8081 # HTTP server
NUMCPU 1 # Number of CPUs
NUMVEC 1 # Vector facilities emulated
TZOFFSET +0500
OSTAILOR OS/390 # OS tailoring
PANRATE FAST # Panel refresh rate
ARCHMODE ESAME # Architecture mode S/370, ESA/390 or ESAME
PGMPRDOS LICENSED # Allow OS/390 and Z/OS systems to run
#
# IPL parameter
#
LOADPARM 0A8000 # IPL parameter
LOADPARM 0A82CS..
IPL from 0A80 is correct.
Regards.
Paul
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Rocky
2010-07-29 19:09:54 UTC
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Leave the space out and oput the reply Id as the first byte
SPECIFY REPLY 00
0I

-->-----Original Message-----
-->From: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
-->[mailto:hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Quasar Chunawala
-->Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 22:03
-->To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
-->Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on
-->Hercules***(Important)
-->
-->Friends,
-->
-->After changing the configuration, I am getting this -
-->
--> IEE600I REPLY TO 00 IS;
--> IXC208I THE RESPONSE TO MESSAGE IXC420D IS INCORRECT: IS
-->NOT A VALID ACTION | IXC420D REPLY I TO INITIALIZE SYSPLEX
-->ADCDPL, OR R TO REINITIALIZE XCF.
--> REPLYING I WILL IMPACT OTHER ACTIVE SYSTEMS.
--> R I
--> | IEE279A REPLY I IGNORED; NON DECIMAL ID. SPECIFY REPLY 00.
-->
--> IEE600I REPLY TO 00 IS;
--> IXC208I THE RESPONSE TO MESSAGE IXC420D IS INCORRECT: IS
-->NOT A VALID ACTION
--> IXC420D REPLY I TO INITIALIZE SYSPLEX ADCDPL, OR R TO
-->REINITIALIZE XCF.
--> REPLYING I WILL IMPACT OTHER ACTIVE SYSTEMS.
-->
-->
-->On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM, paoloG
--><crc-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
-->
-->>
-->>
-->>
-->>
-->> --- In hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
--><hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>,
-->> Quasar Chunawala <***@...> wrote:
-->> >
-->> > Dear friends,
-->> >
-->> > I am trying to set up zOS ADCD V1.4 on Hercules. I have the
-->> > following
-->> *Hercules
-->> > Configuration file.*
-->> > *
-->> > *
-->> > *Hercules.conf
-->> >
-->> > *
-->> > #
-->> > # Configuration file for Hercules & IBM ADCD z/OS 1.3 CDs #
-->> >
-->> > CPUSERIAL 000000 # CPU serial number CPUMODEL 9672 # CPU model
-->> > number MAINSIZE 256 # Main storage size in megabytes
-->XPNDSIZE 0 #
-->> > Expanded storage size in megabytes CNSLPORT 3270 # TCP
-->port number
-->> > to which consoles connect HTTPPORT 8081 # HTTP server NUMCPU 1 #
-->> > Number of CPUs NUMVEC 1 # Vector facilities emulated
-->TZOFFSET +0500
-->> > OSTAILOR OS/390 # OS tailoring PANRATE FAST # Panel refresh rate
-->> > ARCHMODE ESAME # Architecture mode S/370, ESA/390 or
-->ESAME PGMPRDOS
-->> > LICENSED # Allow OS/390 and Z/OS systems to run
-->> >
-->> > #
-->> > # IPL parameter
-->> > #
-->> > LOADPARM 0A8000 # IPL parameter
-->> >
-->>
-->> Try with:
-->>
-->> LOADPARM 0A82CS..
-->>
-->> IPL from 0A80 is correct.
-->>
-->> Regards.
-->>
-->> Paul
-->>
-->>
-->>
-->
-->
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Quasar Chunawala
2010-07-29 19:20:52 UTC
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*Folks - *

Alright, I got to the Logon screen of zOS, but what's the default User-id
and Password?

Thanks,
Quasar Chunawala
Post by Rocky
Leave the space out and oput the reply Id as the first byte
SPECIFY REPLY 00
0I
-->-----Original Message-----
-->Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 22:03
-->Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on
-->Hercules***(Important)
-->
-->Friends,
-->
-->After changing the configuration, I am getting this -
-->
--> IEE600I REPLY TO 00 IS;
--> IXC208I THE RESPONSE TO MESSAGE IXC420D IS INCORRECT: IS
-->NOT A VALID ACTION | IXC420D REPLY I TO INITIALIZE SYSPLEX
-->ADCDPL, OR R TO REINITIALIZE XCF.
--> REPLYING I WILL IMPACT OTHER ACTIVE SYSTEMS.
--> R I
--> | IEE279A REPLY I IGNORED; NON DECIMAL ID. SPECIFY REPLY 00.
-->
--> IEE600I REPLY TO 00 IS;
--> IXC208I THE RESPONSE TO MESSAGE IXC420D IS INCORRECT: IS
-->NOT A VALID ACTION
--> IXC420D REPLY I TO INITIALIZE SYSPLEX ADCDPL, OR R TO
-->REINITIALIZE XCF.
--> REPLYING I WILL IMPACT OTHER ACTIVE SYSTEMS.
-->
-->
-->On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM, paoloG
-->
-->>
-->>
-->>
-->>
--><hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>,
-->> >
-->> > Dear friends,
-->> >
-->> > I am trying to set up zOS ADCD V1.4 on Hercules. I have the
-->> > following
-->> *Hercules
-->> > Configuration file.*
-->> > *
-->> > *
-->> > *Hercules.conf
-->> >
-->> > *
-->> > #
-->> > # Configuration file for Hercules & IBM ADCD z/OS 1.3 CDs #
-->> >
-->> > CPUSERIAL 000000 # CPU serial number CPUMODEL 9672 # CPU model
-->> > number MAINSIZE 256 # Main storage size in megabytes
-->XPNDSIZE 0 #
-->> > Expanded storage size in megabytes CNSLPORT 3270 # TCP
-->port number
-->> > to which consoles connect HTTPPORT 8081 # HTTP server NUMCPU 1 #
-->> > Number of CPUs NUMVEC 1 # Vector facilities emulated
-->TZOFFSET +0500
-->> > OSTAILOR OS/390 # OS tailoring PANRATE FAST # Panel refresh rate
-->> > ARCHMODE ESAME # Architecture mode S/370, ESA/390 or
-->ESAME PGMPRDOS
-->> > LICENSED # Allow OS/390 and Z/OS systems to run
-->> >
-->> > #
-->> > # IPL parameter
-->> > #
-->> > LOADPARM 0A8000 # IPL parameter
-->> >
-->>
-->>
-->> LOADPARM 0A82CS..
-->>
-->> IPL from 0A80 is correct.
-->>
-->> Regards.
-->>
-->> Paul
-->>
-->>
-->>
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Rocky
2010-07-29 19:29:09 UTC
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If you are using the ADCD system - Which you shouldn't be unless you are
working on real hardware :-)
I am pretty sure that there is documentation ADCD

Usually it's something like IBMUSER - If they were nice then passwords
will be the same - LOL
Roc


_____

From: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org] On
Behalf Of Quasar Chunawala
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 22:21
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)




*Folks - *

Alright, I got to the Logon screen of zOS, but what's the default User-id
and Password?

Thanks,
Quasar Chunawala
Post by Rocky
Leave the space out and oput the reply Id as the first byte
SPECIFY REPLY 00
0I
-->-----Original Message-----
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<mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Quasar Chunawala
Post by Rocky
-->Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 22:03
<mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
Post by Rocky
-->Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on
-->Hercules***(Important)
-->
-->Friends,
-->
-->After changing the configuration, I am getting this -
-->
--> IEE600I REPLY TO 00 IS;
--> IXC208I THE RESPONSE TO MESSAGE IXC420D IS INCORRECT: IS
-->NOT A VALID ACTION | IXC420D REPLY I TO INITIALIZE SYSPLEX
-->ADCDPL, OR R TO REINITIALIZE XCF.
--> REPLYING I WILL IMPACT OTHER ACTIVE SYSTEMS.
--> R I
--> | IEE279A REPLY I IGNORED; NON DECIMAL ID. SPECIFY REPLY 00.
-->
--> IEE600I REPLY TO 00 IS;
--> IXC208I THE RESPONSE TO MESSAGE IXC420D IS INCORRECT: IS
-->NOT A VALID ACTION
--> IXC420D REPLY I TO INITIALIZE SYSPLEX ADCDPL, OR R TO
-->REINITIALIZE XCF.
--> REPLYING I WILL IMPACT OTHER ACTIVE SYSTEMS.
-->
-->
-->On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM, paoloG
-->
-->>
-->>
-->>
-->>
<mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
Post by Rocky
--><hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>,
-->> >
-->> > Dear friends,
-->> >
-->> > I am trying to set up zOS ADCD V1.4 on Hercules. I have the
-->> > following
-->> *Hercules
-->> > Configuration file.*
-->> > *
-->> > *
-->> > *Hercules.conf
-->> >
-->> > *
-->> > #
-->> > # Configuration file for Hercules & IBM ADCD z/OS 1.3 CDs #
-->> >
-->> > CPUSERIAL 000000 # CPU serial number CPUMODEL 9672 # CPU model
-->> > number MAINSIZE 256 # Main storage size in megabytes
-->XPNDSIZE 0 #
-->> > Expanded storage size in megabytes CNSLPORT 3270 # TCP
-->port number
-->> > to which consoles connect HTTPPORT 8081 # HTTP server NUMCPU 1 #
-->> > Number of CPUs NUMVEC 1 # Vector facilities emulated
-->TZOFFSET +0500
-->> > OSTAILOR OS/390 # OS tailoring PANRATE FAST # Panel refresh rate
-->> > ARCHMODE ESAME # Architecture mode S/370, ESA/390 or
-->ESAME PGMPRDOS
-->> > LICENSED # Allow OS/390 and Z/OS systems to run
-->> >
-->> > #
-->> > # IPL parameter
-->> > #
-->> > LOADPARM 0A8000 # IPL parameter
-->> >
-->>
-->>
-->> LOADPARM 0A82CS..
-->>
-->> IPL from 0A80 is correct.
-->>
-->> Regards.
-->>
-->> Paul
-->>
-->>
-->>
-->
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Michael McCawley
2010-07-29 19:58:04 UTC
Permalink
Perhaps this doc will help


From: Quasar Chunawala
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:20 PM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)



*Folks - *

Alright, I got to the Logon screen of zOS, but what's the default User-id
and Password?

Thanks,
Quasar Chunawala

2010/7/30 Rocky <rocsystems-***@public.gmane.org>




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Michael McCawley
2010-07-29 23:17:06 UTC
Permalink
The IBM_ADCD_zOS_v1.4w_README.pdf (LCD4-0382015) included with your licensed ADCD package has the answers to all these questions.


From: Quasar Chunawala
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:20 PM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)

*Folks - *

Alright, I got to the Logon screen of zOS, but what's the default User-id
and Password?

Thanks,
Quasar Chunawala

2010/7/30 Rocky <rocsystems-***@public.gmane.org>

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Quasar Chunawala
2010-07-30 02:24:30 UTC
Permalink
*Folks - *
*
*
*I am able to use ISPF and other tools, with ISPFPROC. How do I see DB2, QMF
and other DB2 related stuff. Is there some other logon PROC for this?*
*
*
*Thanks,*
*Quasar Chunawala*
*http://www.mainframes360.com
*
Post by Michael McCawley
The IBM_ADCD_zOS_v1.4w_README.pdf (LCD4-0382015) included with your
licensed ADCD package has the answers to all these questions.
From: Quasar Chunawala
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)
*Folks - *
Alright, I got to the Logon screen of zOS, but what's the default User-id
and Password?
Thanks,
Quasar Chunawala
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Robert Hodge
2010-07-30 03:00:49 UTC
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Yes, there is all kinds of "stuff".  There's CICS stuff, DB2 stuff, IMS stuff,
RACF stuff, File Manager stuff, and so on.  By the tone of the kind of questions
you're asking, you have never laid eyes on MVS, zOS or anything else.  Forgive
me for saying this, but you are wasting your time, and the time of people on
this forum, by pestering everyone you discover a new thing you don't know.  The
best advice I could give you, and I mean this honestly, is to stop messaging the
Hercules forum.  Go on the web and find the IBM zOS online library.  Start with
Introduction to the New Mainframe as a start.  Trying the zOS information
center.  The link http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/z/zos/index.html has
IBM's Support for zOS, which is a good starting point.

Unless you start reading (large) manuals, doing the research and the homework,
having a zOS system will do you no good, and not all the Hercules forum members
combined will be able to help.  You need a solid basis of knowledge to get
anything done on a mainframe, and you just don't have that yet.

I am not saying this to be harsh, it's just the facts of mainframe life.



________________________________
From: Quasar Chunawala <quasar.chunawalla-***@public.gmane.org>
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Cc: Michael McCawley <Mike_DBA-***@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 10:24:30 PM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)

*Folks - *
*
*
*I am able to use ISPF and other tools, with ISPFPROC. How do I see DB2, QMF
and other DB2 related stuff. Is there some other logon PROC for this?*
*
*
*Thanks,*
*Quasar Chunawala*
*http://www.mainframes360.com
*
  The IBM_ADCD_zOS_v1.4w_README.pdf (LCD4-0382015) included with your
licensed ADCD package has the answers to all these questions.
  From: Quasar Chunawala
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)
*Folks - *
Alright, I got to the Logon screen of zOS, but what's the default User-id
and Password?
Thanks,
Quasar Chunawala
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2010-07-30 04:21:40 UTC
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*Robert - *
*
*
*I understand what you are trying to say. I want to politely say, that I am
a COBOL Programmer, and do not have much knowledge about System
Programmingor MVS
Internals. However, I will take your advise and read more about all of this.
Is there any good book in print, which I can refer?*
*
*
*Having said, I was able to Warm Start JES, and start DB2 and CICS. I can
see the DB2MSTR job running. *
*
*
*My question to Database folks :*
*
*
*Question: Although I am currently connected with SYSADM Authority Level, I
am still not able to browse any of the SYSIBM.* Catalog tables. Kindly
advise.*
*
*
*Thanks,*
*Quasar Chunawala*
*http://www.mainframes360.com
*
Yes, there is all kinds of "stuff". There's CICS stuff, DB2 stuff, IMS
stuff,
RACF stuff, File Manager stuff, and so on. By the tone of the kind of
questions
you're asking, you have never laid eyes on MVS, zOS or anything else.
Forgive
me for saying this, but you are wasting your time, and the time of people on
this forum, by pestering everyone you discover a new thing you don't know.
The
best advice I could give you, and I mean this honestly, is to stop messaging the
Hercules forum. Go on the web and find the IBM zOS online library. Start
with
Introduction to the New Mainframe as a start. Trying the zOS information
center. The link http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/z/zos/index.html has
IBM's Support for zOS, which is a good starting point.
Unless you start reading (large) manuals, doing the research and the homework,
having a zOS system will do you no good, and not all the Hercules forum members
combined will be able to help. You need a solid basis of knowledge to get
anything done on a mainframe, and you just don't have that yet.
I am not saying this to be harsh, it's just the facts of mainframe life.
________________________________
Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 10:24:30 PM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)
*Folks - *
*
*
*I am able to use ISPF and other tools, with ISPFPROC. How do I see DB2, QMF
and other DB2 related stuff. Is there some other logon PROC for this?*
*
*
*Thanks,*
*Quasar Chunawala*
*http://www.mainframes360.com
*
Post by Michael McCawley
The IBM_ADCD_zOS_v1.4w_README.pdf (LCD4-0382015) included with your
licensed ADCD package has the answers to all these questions.
From: Quasar Chunawala
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on
Hercules***(Important)
Post by Michael McCawley
*Folks - *
Alright, I got to the Logon screen of zOS, but what's the default User-id
and Password?
Thanks,
Quasar Chunawala
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2010-07-30 07:04:39 UTC
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*
Hi,


OS/390 Partners in Development: OS/390 (and z/OS) New Users Cookbook
*
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246204.pdf

Best Regards,

-- OLL / spocmfsw
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Quasar Chunawala <
Post by Quasar Chunawala
*Robert - *
*
*
*I understand what you are trying to say. I want to politely say, that I am
a COBOL Programmer, and do not have much knowledge about System
Programmingor MVS
Internals. However, I will take your advise and read more about all of this.
Is there any good book in print, which I can refer?*
*
*
*Having said, I was able to Warm Start JES, and start DB2 and CICS. I can
see the DB2MSTR job running. *
*
*
*My question to Database folks :*
*
*
*Question: Although I am currently connected with SYSADM Authority Level, I
am still not able to browse any of the SYSIBM.* Catalog tables. Kindly
advise.*
*
*
*Thanks,*
*Quasar Chunawala*
*http://www.mainframes360.com
*
Yes, there is all kinds of "stuff". There's CICS stuff, DB2 stuff, IMS
stuff,
RACF stuff, File Manager stuff, and so on. By the tone of the kind of
questions
you're asking, you have never laid eyes on MVS, zOS or anything else.
Forgive
me for saying this, but you are wasting your time, and the time of people on
this forum, by pestering everyone you discover a new thing you don't
know.
The
best advice I could give you, and I mean this honestly, is to stop messaging the
Hercules forum. Go on the web and find the IBM zOS online library.
Start
with
Introduction to the New Mainframe as a start. Trying the zOS information
center. The link
http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/z/zos/index.html has
IBM's Support for zOS, which is a good starting point.
Unless you start reading (large) manuals, doing the research and the homework,
having a zOS system will do you no good, and not all the Hercules forum members
combined will be able to help. You need a solid basis of knowledge to
get
anything done on a mainframe, and you just don't have that yet.
I am not saying this to be harsh, it's just the facts of mainframe life.
________________________________
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Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on
Hercules***(Important)
*Folks - *
*
*
*I am able to use ISPF and other tools, with ISPFPROC. How do I see DB2, QMF
and other DB2 related stuff. Is there some other logon PROC for this?*
*
*
*Thanks,*
*Quasar Chunawala*
*http://www.mainframes360.com
*
<Mike_DBA%40hotmail.com>
Post by Michael McCawley
The IBM_ADCD_zOS_v1.4w_README.pdf (LCD4-0382015) included with your
licensed ADCD package has the answers to all these questions.
From: Quasar Chunawala
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on
Hercules***(Important)
Post by Michael McCawley
*Folks - *
Alright, I got to the Logon screen of zOS, but what's the default
User-id
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Post by Quasar Chunawala
*I understand what you are trying to say. I want to politely say, that I am
a COBOL Programmer, and do not have much knowledge about System
Programmingor MVS
Internals. However, I will take your advise and read more about all of this.
Is there any good book in print, which I can refer?*
*
*
*Having said, I was able to Warm Start JES, and start DB2 and CICS. I can
see the DB2MSTR job running. *
*
*
*My question to Database folks :*
*
*
*Question: Although I am currently connected with SYSADM Authority Level, I
am still not able to browse any of the SYSIBM.* Catalog tables. Kindly
advise.*
Quasar,

Although there are people on this list who are knowledgable in all
sorts of areas, the list is primarily about the Hercules emulator, and
not the operating systems and application programs that can be run on
it. There are other public lists that specialize in those topics, and
as other have pointed out, there is documentation that comes with the
ADCD, and IBM forums for ADCD discussion. For a start, have a look at
Post by Quasar Chunawala
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Tony H.
Michael McCawley
2010-07-30 19:00:25 UTC
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Has anyone taken the time to check the website ( http://www.mainframes360.com/ ) Quasar is hosting?

It appears to be quite ambitious and may become a good starting point for those who wish to learn many of the Mainframe's concepts.

Hopefully, Quazar will also use the site to post links to some of the documentation he discovers while trying Hercules and learning z/OS systems.

If more sites like his existed, perhaps more interest in IBM z/OS systems would be generated among the new generation.

Michael McCawley


From: Tony Harminc
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:02 AM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)
Post by Quasar Chunawala
*I understand what you are trying to say. I want to politely say, that I am
a COBOL Programmer, and do not have much knowledge about System
Programmingor MVS
Internals. However, I will take your advise and read more about all of this.
Is there any good book in print, which I can refer?*
*
*Question: Although I am currently connected with SYSADM Authority Level, I
am still not able to browse any of the SYSIBM.* Catalog tables. Kindly
advise.*
Quasar,

Although there are people on this list who are knowledgable in all
sorts of areas, the list is primarily about the Hercules emulator, and
not the operating systems and application programs that can be run on
it. There are other public lists that specialize in those topics, and
as other have pointed out, there is documentation that comes with the
ADCD, and IBM forums for ADCD discussion. For a start, have a look at
Post by Quasar Chunawala
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Tony H.




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barbara burton
2010-07-30 23:10:45 UTC
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Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&TRgcxcxxxcxrffRrFrrre

-----Original message-----
From: Michael McCawley <Mike_DBA-***@public.gmane.org>
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Cc: hercules-advocacy-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Fri, Jul 30, 2010 19:01:59 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)

Has anyone taken the time to check the website ( http://www.mainframes360.com/ ) Quasar is hosting?

It appears to be quite ambitious and may become a good starting point for those who wish to learn many of the Mainframe's concepts.

Hopefully, Quazar will also use the site to post links to some of the documentation he discovers while trying Hercules and learning z/OS systems.

If more sites like his existed, perhaps more interest in IBM z/OS systems would be generated among the new generation.

Michael McCawley


From: Tony Harminc
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:02 AM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)
Post by Quasar Chunawala
*I understand what you are trying to say. I want to politely say, that I am
a COBOL Programmer, and do not have much knowledge about System
Programmingor MVS
Internals. However, I will take your advise and read more about all of this.
Is there any good book in print, which I can refer?*
*
*Question: Although I am currently connected with SYSADM Authority Level, I
am still not able to browse any of the SYSIBM.* Catalog tables. Kindly
advise.*
Quasar,

Although there are people on this list who are knowledgable in all
sorts of areas, the list is primarily about the Hercules emulator, and
not the operating systems and application programs that can be run on
it. There are other public lists that special


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barbara burton
2010-07-30 23:13:25 UTC
Permalink
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Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T

-----Original message-----
From: Michael McCawley <Mike_DBA-***@public.gmane.org>
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Cc: hercules-advocacy-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Fri, Jul 30, 2010 19:01:59 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)

Has anyone taken the time to check the website ( http://www.mainframes360.com/ ) Quasar is hosting?

It appears to be quite ambitious and may become a good starting point for those who wish to learn many of the Mainframe's concepts.

Hopefully, Quazar will also use the site to post links to some of the documentation he discovers while trying Hercules and learning z/OS systems.

If more sites like his existed, perhaps more interest in IBM z/OS systems would be generated among the new generation.

Michael McCawley


From: Tony Harminc
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:02 AM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)
Post by Quasar Chunawala
*I understand what you are trying to say. I want to politely say, that I am
a COBOL Programmer, and do not have much knowledge about System
Programmingor MVS
Internals. However, I will take your advise and read more about all of this.
Is there any good book in print, which I can refer?*
*
*Question: Although I am currently connected with SYSADM Authority Level, I
am still not able to browse any of the SYSIBM.* Catalog tables. Kindly
advise.*
Quasar,

Although there are people on this list who are knowledgable in all
sorts of areas, the list is primarily about the Hercules emulator, and
not the operating systems and application programs that can be run on
it. There are other public lists that special


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barbara burton
2010-07-30 23:17:41 UTC
Permalink
Ddfdrxz

Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T

-----Original message-----
From: Michael McCawley <Mike_DBA-***@public.gmane.org>
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Cc: hercules-advocacy-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Fri, Jul 30, 2010 19:01:59 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)

Has anyone taken the time to check the website ( http://www.mainframes360.com/ ) Quasar is hosting?

It appears to be quite ambitious and may become a good starting point for those who wish to learn many of the Mainframe's concepts.

Hopefully, Quazar will also use the site to post links to some of the documentation he discovers while trying Hercules and learning z/OS systems.

If more sites like his existed, perhaps more interest in IBM z/OS systems would be generated among the new generation.

Michael McCawley


From: Tony Harminc
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:02 AM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: ***zOS ADCD v1.4 on Hercules***(Important)
Post by Quasar Chunawala
*I understand what you are trying to say. I want to politely say, that I am
a COBOL Programmer, and do not have much knowledge about System
Programmingor MVS
Internals. However, I will take your advise and read more about all of this.
Is there any good book in print, which I can refer?*
*
*Question: Although I am currently connected with SYSADM Authority Level, I
am still not able to browse any of the SYSIBM.* Catalog tables. Kindly
advise.*
Quasar,

Although there are people on this list who are knowledgable in all
sorts of areas, the list is primarily about the Hercules emulator, and
not the operating systems and application programs that can be run on
it. There are other public lists that special


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Gerhard Postpischil
2010-07-30 23:18:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael McCawley
Has anyone taken the time to check the website (
http://www.mainframes360.com/ ) Quasar is hosting?
Twice I've tried, and twice it crashed my browser.
Post by Michael McCawley
It appears to be quite ambitious and may become a good
starting point for those who wish to learn many of the
Mainframe's concepts.
I looked at the IEBCOPY description under Utilities, and at best
it's incomplete. Some of the information is misleading (the COPY
sample has an explicit RECFM=FB, with no explanation - pity the
user who adapts for a load library copy). For the different
functions (copy, compress, unload/restore) the author should
have used different paragraphs to obtain better readability even
if it meant repetition of some items. The unload description
creates the impression that the sequential file must be on a
tape drive, etc.

It makes me wish that there were a Wiki-tutorial so that all the
information could be cleaned up in one location.

Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT
somitcw
2010-07-31 11:12:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gerhard Postpischil
Post by Michael McCawley
Has anyone taken the time to check the website (
http://www.mainframes360.com/ ) Quasar is hosting?
Twice I've tried, and twice it crashed my browser.
When you get the web page to display, the lay-out is
so bad that you have to scroll left and right to read
examples but complaining directly to him might be better
than posting here?
Post by Gerhard Postpischil
Post by Michael McCawley
It appears to be quite ambitious and may become a good
starting point for those who wish to learn many of the
Mainframe's concepts.
I looked at the IEBCOPY description under Utilities,
and at best it's incomplete. Some of the information is
misleading (the COPY sample has an explicit RECFM=FB,
with no explanation - pity the user who adapts for a
load library copy). For the different functions (copy,
compress, unload/restore) the author should have used
different paragraphs to obtain better readability even
if it meant repetition of some items. The unload
description creates the impression that the sequential
file must be on a tape drive, etc.
So send a private note to him describing his JCL
issues and what should be coded. I already sent him
some CoBOL information.
Post by Gerhard Postpischil
It makes me wish that there were a Wiki-tutorial so that
all the information could be cleaned up in one location.
Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT
Gavin Eadie
2010-07-31 17:16:20 UTC
Permalink
Apologies if this is not an appropriate question for this group.

I have a dozen or so 9-track tape reels which I'd like to get some information off. I use Hercules and so wonder if anyone on the list knows of a service to transcribe such tapes to AWS files, or indeed has other suggestions for reading them? Many thanks .. Gavin
Robert Hodge
2010-07-31 18:38:19 UTC
Permalink
There are data recovery services that will copy data from old tapes and disks,
but they are not cheap.  Your best bet might be to try and find someone employed
at a site with a mainframe and see if they have kept any 9-track reel-to-reel
tape drives around.  Sometimes large shops hold onto just one such drive for
special cases, and the rest are cartridge drives.  Cartridges have been around
quite a while, so chances of finding a reel-to-reel drive still operating and
getting access to it are pretty slim, but not impossible.  If so, they might be
able to copy the data to a local disk file, and then perhaps FTP it back to you.

BTW, if the tape in question was 6250 BPI tape on a 2400 foot real, the
theoretical capacity of such a tape is about 180 MB, so you should be able to
fit at least three of your tapes onto a CD-ROM, and possibly more if the tapes
are not completely maxed out.




________________________________
From: Gavin Eadie <gavineadie-***@public.gmane.org>
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Sat, July 31, 2010 1:16:20 PM
Subject: [hercules-390] 9-track tape transcription to AWS ?

 
Apologies if this is not an appropriate question for this group.

I have a dozen or so 9-track tape reels which I'd like to get some information
off. I use Hercules and so wonder if anyone on the list knows of a service to
transcribe such tapes to AWS files, or indeed has other suggestions for reading
them? Many thanks .. Gavin






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George
2010-07-31 19:41:34 UTC
Permalink
Robert brings up an interesting question for Gavin. Do you know what
tape density the tape is?

George
Post by Robert Hodge
There are data recovery services that will copy data from old tapes and disks,
but they are not cheap. Your best bet might be to try and find someone
employed
at a site with a mainframe and see if they have kept any 9-track reel-to-reel
tape drives around. Sometimes large shops hold onto just one such drive
for
special cases, and the rest are cartridge drives. Cartridges have been
around
quite a while, so chances of finding a reel-to-reel drive still operating and
getting access to it are pretty slim, but not impossible. If so, they
might be
able to copy the data to a local disk file, and then perhaps FTP it back to you.
BTW, if the tape in question was 6250 BPI tape on a 2400 foot real, the
theoretical capacity of such a tape is about 180 MB, so you should be able to
fit at least three of your tapes onto a CD-ROM, and possibly more if the tapes
are not completely maxed out.
________________________________
Sent: Sat, July 31, 2010 1:16:20 PM
Subject: [hercules-390] 9-track tape transcription to AWS ?
Apologies if this is not an appropriate question for this group.
I have a dozen or so 9-track tape reels which I'd like to get some information
off. I use Hercules and so wonder if anyone on the list knows of a service to
transcribe such tapes to AWS files, or indeed has other suggestions for reading
them? Many thanks .. Gavin
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Gavin Eadie
2010-07-31 21:01:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by George
Robert brings up an interesting question for Gavin. Do you know what
tape density the tape is?
George
I have some at 6250 and some at 1600 (and maybe, but probably not, some at 800) bpi. I might even have a 7-track or two but I've given up on transcribing those!

I suspected a professional service would be expensive and, in my case, that's not worth it because some of the tapes have nothing of value on them and I won't know which ones till they are read so I know I'd be spending a lot for literally nothing.

I do have some local contacts, but getting access to their hardware is a problem .. looks like it's time to try harder.

Thanks .. Gavin


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Robert Hodge
2010-07-31 22:20:18 UTC
Permalink
Here is someone you might try to do the data conversions:

http://www.wiltec.com/

 



________________________________
From: Gavin Eadie <gavineadie-***@public.gmane.org>
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Sat, July 31, 2010 5:01:16 PM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] 9-track tape transcription to AWS ?

 
Post by George
Robert brings up an interesting question for Gavin. Do you know what
tape density the tape is?
George
I have some at 6250 and some at 1600 (and maybe, but probably not, some at 800)
bpi. I might even have a 7-track or two but I've given up on transcribing those!

I suspected a professional service would be expensive and, in my case, that's
not worth it because some of the tapes have nothing of value on them and I won't
know which ones till they are read so I know I'd be spending a lot for literally
nothing.


I do have some local contacts, but getting access to their hardware is a problem
.. looks like it's time to try harder.

Thanks .. Gavin

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Gavin Eadie
2010-08-01 13:14:36 UTC
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I've had some very generous offers of assistance which I want to acknowledge. I'm going to wait a few days and see if any local options mature, but didn't want those kind people to think I wasn't appreciative .. This is a great list, Gavin
Jay Maynard
2010-07-31 22:54:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gavin Eadie
I have some at 6250 and some at 1600 (and maybe, but probably not, some at
800) bpi. I might even have a 7-track or two but I've given up on
transcribing those!
I've had good luck reading 6250 and 1600, not so good with 800. The big
gotcha is the Memorex MRX V and some BASF tapes that have binder migration
problems and need to be freeze-dried before reading.

I have a 9-track drive on a PC, and would be happy to read the tapes if they
can be read.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!)
Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390
Tony Harminc
2010-07-29 21:02:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Quasar Chunawala
*Folks - *
Alright, I got to the Logon screen of zOS, but what's the default User-id and Password?
You need to get that from the supplier of your operating system -
presumably IBM.

Overall it sounds as though you have little or no background with the
operating system you are trying to use, e.g. there is no "logon screen
of zOS", but rather logon screens for various applications such as
TSO, CICS, etc. If you have general questions about current IBM
operating systems, you would do better to ask on the IBM-MAIN list.

If you would rather use one of the older, public domain IBM OSs, then
there are OS-specific Hercules groups where people will be happy to
help you with those.

Tony H.
Rocky
2010-07-31 09:36:45 UTC
Permalink
Hi Quasar -

I admire your persistance.

But really all are correct - this is not the forum for your questions - This
is Hercules and you are talking beginning Mainframe,,
That being said:

1) I see that Brian Westerman replied to you - Brian is an excellent source
of information and from what I remember, he told me that he worked on the
development team of the ADCD package. He usually is very helpful so I
suggest that you try contacting him off line.
I am sure that if has the time he will do his best to put you on the right
track

2) if his replies are too complicated for you then you can write me offline
- Brian has a lot more knowledge about this than I do, but I DID set up a
complete ZOS 1.9 system to work. I ran into all the problems that you are
talking about and scores of others,

That being said:

This is real systems programming and there is no way that you are going to
get ZOS to work properly unless you want to put in weeks and months of
concentrated effort, If you want DB2 and CICS etc then you are going to
have to do all the sytems work involved for a DBA and CICS systems
pogrammer,

The canned package on the ADCD diskettes is just a starter and won't get you
very far
Same goes for RACF - and VTAM and the SYSTEMS internals

You will want to insall the debugger and some normal databases etc. if you
want to simulate your workplace environment.
Build procedure etc. etc etc.

If you are willing to put in the effort then I'd be happy to help you - but
that implies that you do a lot of digging and sweating on your own and
pretty much devote yurself to this project,
You cannot imagine the amount of effort that is required to get this to work
- Even for someone who has the knowledge and background which you freely
admit you don't.

If you want an evironment similar to your workplace then you will need to do
all the work of the DBA's CICS sytems programmers - System systems
programmers and the various adminstrators for SMF and RACF SNA and VTAM just
to name a few.

If you want a less problematic system then go for the VM6 that everyone on
the Hercules site is talking about.
A lot more practical for you -- And these people are all very professionsal

That system practically works right out of the box. It also won't give you
the workplace you are familiar with or even anything close to that, but its
the real place to learn beginning progamming. You will have to Sweat there
also - But you will learn - The Zos is in my opinion is a great system but
you just don't have the skill set to move forward with that yet.

Up to you - But without a lot of sweat you are not going forward.
What are your objectives? Do they justify the effort?

Perhaps you should just ask around if anyone can send you a ready made
customized system where all the work has been done.
Then you can go in and just be the COBOL programmer you say you are. maybe
putter around a bit with assembler.

But you will have the envrionment.
Is that what you are lookng for?

Roc









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