Discussion:
need initial linux install help
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Joseph M. DeAngelo
2007-03-23 19:27:37 UTC
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HI, I know this is a trivial question but I have built a Hercules 3.04
environment in my new Windows Vista machine. HercGUI comes up quite
nicely. I've created what I believe I'll need for DASD. I have
downloaded the SLES-10 DVD from Novell, but I'm not clear on what I ned
to do in order to boot from the DVD-rom. I imagine I need to define
some sort of tape device, but I'm not clear on exactly how that is
supposed to work. Can anyone refer me to some usable doc for this?

Thanks in advance.
dekel35
2007-03-26 14:28:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
HI, I know this is a trivial question but I have built a Hercules 3.04
environment in my new Windows Vista machine. HercGUI comes up quite
nicely. I've created what I believe I'll need for DASD. I have
downloaded the SLES-10 DVD from Novell, but I'm not clear on what I ned
to do in order to boot from the DVD-rom. I imagine I need to define
some sort of tape device, but I'm not clear on exactly how that is
supposed to work. Can anyone refer me to some usable doc for this?
Thanks in advance.
The easiest way would be to ipl from the cdrom. At the hercules prompt
type:
ipl d:\generic.ins

Note that the file name may differ, dependig on the linux
distribution, but it will always have an *.ins suffix.
Joseph M. DeAngelo
2007-03-26 15:35:05 UTC
Permalink
I have tried that and I am able to boot the "starter" system, but my
problem is that the system, as I've configured it, is unable to
locate the DVD containing the software I need to load onto the hard
drive, even though it was IPL'ed from there. I've even done this
before running Hercules under Linux, but I've never done it running
Hercules under Windows (Vista).

I don't want to make this reply much longer than it is, so I'll just
insert a typical run log. If you wander back to the original posting
you'll see my configuration file.

14:43:13.666 00000300 ipl 0580 clr
14:43:13.667 00000300 HHCCP007I CPU0000 architecture mode set to
ESA/390
14:43:14.066 00000300 CPU0000: SIGP Set architecture mode (12)
CPU0000, PARM 00000001: CC 0
14:43:14.066 00000300 HHCCP007I CPU0000 architecture mode set to
z/Arch
14:43:14.085 00000300 HHCCP014I CPU0000: Addressing exception
CODE=0005 ILC=6
14:43:14.085 00000300 PSW=00001001 80000000 000000000001016E
INST=E50150000000 TPROT 0(5),0(0)
14:43:14.085 00000300 R:0000000010000000: Translation exception 0005
14:43:14.088 00000300 R:0000000000000000:K:06=00080000 80000240
27000000 60000001 ....... ....-...
14:43:14.088 00000300 R0=0000000000000000 R1=0000000000020000
R2=0000000000000000 R3=00000000005CC478
14:43:14.088 00000300 R4=0000000000000000 R5=0000000010000000
R6=0000000000000000 R7=0000000000000000
14:43:14.088 00000300 R8=0000000000000000 R9=0000000010000000
RA=0000000000000010 RB=0000000000000000
14:43:14.088 00000300 RC=0000000000010400 RD=0000000000010002
RE=0000000080010010 RF=0000000000000000
14:43:14.781 00000300 HHCCP041I SYSCONS interface active
14:43:14.781 00000300 HHCCP041I SYSCONS interface active
14:43:14.882 00000300 Linux version 2.6.16.21-0.8-default
(***@buildhost) (gcc version 4.1.0 (SUSE L
14:43:14.882 00000300 inux)) #1 SMP Mon Jul 3 19:27:06 UTC 2006
14:43:14.882 00000300 We are running native (64 bit mode)
14:43:14.882 00000300 Detected 1 CPU's
14:43:14.882 00000300 Boot cpu address 0
14:43:14.882 00000300 Built 1 zonelists
14:43:14.882 00000300 Kernel command line: root=/dev/ram0 ro
14:43:14.882 00000300 PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 65536
bytes)
14:43:14.882 00000300 Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order:
7, 524288 bytes)
14:43:14.882 00000300 Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order:
6, 262144 bytes)
14:43:14.882 00000300 Memory: 239616k/262144k available (4298k kernel
code, 0k reserved, 1401k data, 1
14:43:14.882 00000300 96k init)
14:43:15.172 00000300 Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
14:43:15.172 00000300 Mount-cache hash table entries: 256
14:43:15.172 00000300 checking if image is initramfs...
14:43:40.306 00000300 it is
14:44:06.539 00000300 Freeing initrd memory: 8067k freed
14:44:06.539 00000300 cpu 0 phys_idx=0 vers=00 ident=002623
machine=3090 unused=8000
14:44:06.539 00000300 Brought up 1 CPUs
14:44:06.539 00000300 migration_cost=1000
14:44:06.539 00000300 NET: Registered protocol family 16
14:44:06.539 00000300 debug: Initialization complete
14:44:06.539 00000300 cio: Was not able to determine available CHSCs.
14:44:06.664 00000300 HHCCP041I SYSCONS interface active
14:44:06.665 00000300 HHCCP041I SYSCONS interface active
14:44:06.689 00000300 TC classifier action (bugs to
netdev-***@public.gmane.org cc hadi-fAAogVwAN2Kw5LPnMra/***@public.gmane.org)
14:44:06.689 00000300 audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
14:44:06.689 00000300 audit(1174830246.604:1): initialized
14:44:06.689 00000300 VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
14:44:06.689 00000300 Dquot-cache hash table entries: 512 (order 0,
4096 bytes)
14:44:06.689 00000300 Initializing Cryptographic API
14:44:06.689 00000300 io scheduler noop registered
14:44:06.689 00000300 io scheduler anticipatory registered
14:44:06.689 00000300 io scheduler deadline registered (default)
14:44:06.689 00000300 io scheduler cfq registered
14:44:06.689 00000300 RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of
32768K size 1024 blocksize
14:44:06.689 00000300 md: md driver 0.90.3 MAX_MD_DEVS=256,
MD_SB_DISKS=27
14:44:06.689 00000300 md: bitmap version 4.39
14:44:06.690 00000300 Channel measurement facility using basic format
(autodetected)
14:44:06.690 00000300 NET: Registered protocol family 2
14:44:06.870 00000300 IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order:
3, 32768 bytes)
14:44:06.870 00000300 TCP established hash table entries: 16384
(order: 6, 262144 bytes)
14:44:06.870 00000300 TCP bind hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6,
262144 bytes)
14:44:06.870 00000300 TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384
bind 16384)
14:44:06.870 00000300 TCP reno registered
14:44:06.870 00000300 NET: Registered protocol family 1
14:44:06.870 00000300 Freeing unused kernel memory: 196k freed
14:44:06.998 00000300 Moving into tmpfs...
14:44:09.008 00000300 done.
14:44:09.558 00000300
14:44:09.558 00000300 >>> SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10
installation program v2.0.46 (c) 1996-2006 S
14:44:09.558 00000300 USE Linux Products GmbH <<<
14:44:09.558 00000300
14:44:09.558 00000300 Starting udev ...
14:44:11.318 00000300 ... udev running
14:44:13.027 00000300 SCSI subsystem initialized
14:44:14.567 00000300 NET: Registered protocol family 17
14:44:47.832 00000300 loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
14:44:50.782 00000300 Starting hardware detection...
14:44:53.192 00000300
14:44:54.032 00000300 Searching for info file...
14:44:54.812 00000300
14:44:54.812 00000300 *** Could not find the SUSE Linux Enterprise
Server 10 Installation CD.
14:44:54.812 00000300
14:44:54.812 00000300 Activating manual setup program.
14:44:54.812 00000300
14:44:54.812 00000300 >>> Linuxrc v2.0.46 (Kernel 2.6.16.21-0.8-
default) <<<
14:44:54.812 00000300
14:44:54.812 00000300 Main Menu
14:44:54.812 00000300
14:44:54.812 00000300 1) Settings
14:44:54.812 00000300 2) System Information
14:44:54.812 00000300 3) Kernel Modules (Hardware Drivers)
14:44:54.812 00000300 4) Start Installation or System
14:44:54.812 00000300 5) Verify Installation CD-ROM/DVD
14:44:54.812 00000300 6) Eject CD
14:44:54.812 00000300 7) Exit or Reboot
14:44:54.812 00000300 8) Power off
14:44:54.812 00000300
14:44:54.812 00000300 >
14:45:07.235 00000300 1
14:45:07.235 00000300 HHCPN139E Command "1" not found; enter '?' for
list.
14:45:09.842 00000300 .1
14:45:09.944 00000300 1
14:45:09.944 00000300
14:45:09.944 00000300 Settings
14:45:09.944 00000300
14:45:09.944 00000300 1) Language
14:45:09.944 00000300 2) Display
14:45:09.944 00000300 3) Keymap
14:45:09.944 00000300 4) Debug (expert)
14:45:09.944 00000300
14:45:09.944 00000300 >
14:45:14.629 00000300 .0
14:45:14.735 00000300 0
14:45:14.735 00000300
14:45:14.735 00000300 Main Menu
14:45:14.735 00000300
14:45:14.735 00000300 1) Settings
14:45:14.735 00000300 2) System Information
14:45:14.735 00000300 3) Kernel Modules (Hardware Drivers)
14:45:14.735 00000300 4) Start Installation or System
14:45:14.735 00000300 5) Verify Installation CD-ROM/DVD
14:45:14.735 00000300 6) Eject CD
14:45:14.735 00000300 7) Exit or Reboot
14:45:14.735 00000300 8) Power off
14:45:14.735 00000300
14:45:14.735 00000300 >
14:45:18.844 00000300 .2
14:45:18.946 00000300 2
14:45:18.946 00000300
14:45:18.946 00000300 System Information
14:45:18.946 00000300
14:45:18.946 00000300 1) Kernel Messages
14:45:18.946 00000300 2) Hard Disks or CD-ROMs
14:45:18.946 00000300 3) Modules
14:45:18.946 00000300 4) Processor
14:45:18.946 00000300 5) Memory
14:45:18.946 00000300 6) I/O Ports
14:45:18.946 00000300 7) Interrupts
14:45:18.946 00000300 8) Devices
14:45:18.946 00000300 9) Network Cards
14:45:18.946 00000300 10) DMA
14:45:18.946 00000300
14:45:18.946 00000300 >
14:45:23.446 00000300 .2
14:45:23.557 00000300 2
14:45:24.935 00000300
14:45:24.935 00000300 Hard Disks or CD-ROMs
14:45:24.935 00000300
14:45:24.935 00000300 No hard disks or CD-ROM drives have been
detected so far.
14:45:24.935 00000300
14:45:24.935 00000300 System Information
14:45:24.935 00000300
14:45:24.935 00000300 1) Kernel Messages
14:45:24.935 00000300 2) Hard Disks or CD-ROMs
14:45:24.935 00000300 3) Modules
14:45:24.935 00000300 4) Processor
14:45:24.935 00000300 5) Memory
14:45:24.935 00000300 6) I/O Ports
14:45:24.935 00000300 7) Interrupts
14:45:24.935 00000300 8) Devices
14:45:24.935 00000300 9) Network Cards
14:45:24.935 00000300 10) DMA
14:45:24.935 00000300
14:45:24.935 00000300 >
14:45:37.314 00000300 .0
14:45:37.417 00000300 0
14:45:37.417 00000300
14:45:37.417 00000300 Main Menu
14:45:37.417 00000300
14:45:37.417 00000300 1) Settings
14:45:37.417 00000300 2) System Information
14:45:37.417 00000300 3) Kernel Modules (Hardware Drivers)
14:45:37.417 00000300 4) Start Installation or System
14:45:37.417 00000300 5) Verify Installation CD-ROM/DVD
14:45:37.417 00000300 6) Eject CD
14:45:37.417 00000300 7) Exit or Reboot
14:45:37.417 00000300 8) Power off
14:45:37.417 00000300
14:45:37.417 00000300 >
14:45:44.253 00000300 .5
14:45:44.357 00000300 5
14:45:44.357 00000300
14:45:44.357 00000300 Insert Installation CD-ROM or DVD.
14:45:44.357 00000300
14:45:44.357 00000300 *** No CD-ROM or DVD found.
14:45:44.357 00000300
14:45:44.357 00000300 Main Menu
14:45:44.357 00000300
14:45:44.357 00000300 1) Settings
14:45:44.357 00000300 2) System Information
14:45:44.357 00000300 3) Kernel Modules (Hardware Drivers)
14:45:44.357 00000300 4) Start Installation or System
14:45:44.357 00000300 5) Verify Installation CD-ROM/DVD
14:45:44.357 00000300 6) Eject CD
14:45:44.357 00000300 7) Exit or Reboot
14:45:44.358 00000300 8) Power off
14:45:44.358 00000300
14:45:44.358 00000300 >
14:46:10.797 00000300 .4
14:46:10.905 00000300 4
14:46:10.905 00000300
14:46:10.905 00000300 Start Installation or System
14:46:10.905 00000300
14:46:10.905 00000300 1) Start Installation or Update
14:46:10.905 00000300 2) Boot Installed System
14:46:10.905 00000300 3) Start Rescue System
14:46:10.905 00000300
14:46:10.905 00000300 >
14:46:17.499 00000300 .1
14:46:17.607 00000300 1
14:46:17.607 00000300
14:46:17.607 00000300 Choose the source medium.
14:46:17.607 00000300
14:46:17.607 00000300 1) CD-ROM
14:46:17.607 00000300 2) Network
14:46:17.607 00000300 3) Hard Disk
14:46:17.607 00000300
14:46:17.607 00000300 >
14:46:21.757 00000300 .1
14:46:21.867 00000300 1
14:46:21.867 00000300 Trying to mount the CD-ROM...
14:46:21.867 00000300
14:46:21.867 00000300 Make sure that CD number 1 is in your drive.
14:46:31.362 00000300 .
14:46:31.468 00000300
14:46:31.468 00000300 Trying to mount the CD-ROM...
14:46:31.468 00000300
14:46:31.468 00000300 *** Unable to mount the CD-ROM.
14:46:31.468 00000300
14:46:31.468 00000300 Choose the source medium.
14:46:31.468 00000300
14:46:31.468 00000300 1) CD-ROM
14:46:31.468 00000300 2) Network
14:46:31.468 00000300 3) Hard Disk
14:46:31.468 00000300
14:46:31.468 00000300 >
Post by dekel35
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
HI, I know this is a trivial question but I have built a Hercules 3.04
environment in my new Windows Vista machine. HercGUI comes up quite
nicely. I've created what I believe I'll need for DASD. I have
downloaded the SLES-10 DVD from Novell, but I'm not clear on what I ned
to do in order to boot from the DVD-rom. I imagine I need to define
some sort of tape device, but I'm not clear on exactly how that is
supposed to work. Can anyone refer me to some usable doc for this?
Thanks in advance.
The easiest way would be to ipl from the cdrom. At the hercules prompt
ipl d:\generic.ins
Note that the file name may differ, dependig on the linux
distribution, but it will always have an *.ins suffix.
dekel35
2007-03-26 15:59:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
I have tried that and I am able to boot the "starter" system, but my
problem is that the system, as I've configured it, is unable to
locate the DVD containing the software I need to load onto the hard
drive, even though it was IPL'ed from there.
<...>
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
14:46:17.607 00000300 Choose the source medium.
14:46:17.607 00000300
14:46:17.607 00000300 1) CD-ROM
14:46:17.607 00000300 2) Network
14:46:17.607 00000300 3) Hard Disk
14:46:17.607 00000300
14:46:17.607 00000300 >
14:46:21.757 00000300 .1
There is a difference between initlizing the a system from the CD-ROM,
and having a CD-ROM as a native device for a mainframe. It's true that
today's mainframes can be ipled from the HMC's CD-ROM which "feeds"
the image into the machine. *But*, this does not make the CD-ROM a
native mainframe device to the extent that you can tell an operating
system to read from it. You have to define a standard network link.

Note that even when you IPL from the cdrom, the mainframe does not
read the cdrom, it is just presented by the HMC (which is a PC) or by
Hercules which emulates the same operation.
Joseph M. DeAngelo
2007-03-26 16:42:24 UTC
Permalink
OK, I can accept that explanation. How would you advise that I
proceed in order to load SLES10 onto my virtual DASD from the DVD?

I have already tried to load the entire DVD into a Windows directory
in a shared area, but trying to do a network install blows with:

18:03:44.457 00000C00 Trying to mount the share
18:03:44.457 00000C00
18:03:44.457 00000C00 "//192.168.250.69/Public"
18:03:48.196 00000C00 CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13
18:03:48.336 00000C00 CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13
18:03:48.346 00000C00
18:03:48.346 00000C00 *** SMB/CIFS mount failed

I've also loaded the DVD onto an OS/X system into an NFS exported
directory to no avail.

How do people install an OS under WIndows based Hercules?
Post by dekel35
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
I have tried that and I am able to boot the "starter" system, but my
problem is that the system, as I've configured it, is unable to
locate the DVD containing the software I need to load onto the hard
drive, even though it was IPL'ed from there.
<...>
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
14:46:17.607 00000300 Choose the source medium.
14:46:17.607 00000300
14:46:17.607 00000300 1) CD-ROM
14:46:17.607 00000300 2) Network
14:46:17.607 00000300 3) Hard Disk
14:46:17.607 00000300
14:46:17.607 00000300 >
14:46:21.757 00000300 .1
There is a difference between initlizing the a system from the CD-
ROM,
Post by dekel35
and having a CD-ROM as a native device for a mainframe. It's true that
today's mainframes can be ipled from the HMC's CD-ROM which "feeds"
the image into the machine. *But*, this does not make the CD-ROM a
native mainframe device to the extent that you can tell an operating
system to read from it. You have to define a standard network link.
Note that even when you IPL from the cdrom, the mainframe does not
read the cdrom, it is just presented by the HMC (which is a PC) or by
Hercules which emulates the same operation.
Joseph M. DeAngelo
2007-03-26 17:26:31 UTC
Permalink
Huzzah! ! !

I've found the problem. The error below arises because I was trying
to mount a share on a WIndows Vista system. In looking around at
other people's experience with this I found that there is apparently
some sort of Samba issue WRT Vista. So I loaded the DVD onto an XP
system and the procedure below now works.

Here is my advice to anyone using Windows Hercules. These things are
not documented and they will mess you up.

1) bring up HercGUI as Administrator. If you don't do this, the CTCI
connection won't work.
2) do not attempt to mount a Windows share to a Vista system.

Thanks to all on both threads who tried to help.
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
OK, I can accept that explanation. How would you advise that I
proceed in order to load SLES10 onto my virtual DASD from the DVD?
I have already tried to load the entire DVD into a Windows
directory
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
18:03:44.457 00000C00 Trying to mount the share
18:03:44.457 00000C00
18:03:44.457 00000C00 "//192.168.250.69/Public"
18:03:48.196 00000C00 CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13
18:03:48.336 00000C00 CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -
13
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
18:03:48.346 00000C00
18:03:48.346 00000C00 *** SMB/CIFS mount failed
I've also loaded the DVD onto an OS/X system into an NFS exported
directory to no avail.
How do people install an OS under WIndows based Hercules?
Post by dekel35
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
I have tried that and I am able to boot the "starter" system,
but
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
my
Post by dekel35
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
problem is that the system, as I've configured it, is unable to
locate the DVD containing the software I need to load onto the
hard
Post by dekel35
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
drive, even though it was IPL'ed from there.
<...>
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
14:46:17.607 00000300 Choose the source medium.
14:46:17.607 00000300
14:46:17.607 00000300 1) CD-ROM
14:46:17.607 00000300 2) Network
14:46:17.607 00000300 3) Hard Disk
14:46:17.607 00000300
14:46:17.607 00000300 >
14:46:21.757 00000300 .1
There is a difference between initlizing the a system from the CD-
ROM,
Post by dekel35
and having a CD-ROM as a native device for a mainframe. It's true
that
Post by dekel35
today's mainframes can be ipled from the HMC's CD-ROM
which "feeds"
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
Post by dekel35
the image into the machine. *But*, this does not make the CD-ROM a
native mainframe device to the extent that you can tell an
operating
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
Post by dekel35
system to read from it. You have to define a standard network link.
Note that even when you IPL from the cdrom, the mainframe does not
read the cdrom, it is just presented by the HMC (which is a PC)
or
Post by Joseph M. DeAngelo
by
Post by dekel35
Hercules which emulates the same operation.
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