Discussion:
RPi to power a model
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Martin Truebner
2013-05-10 10:22:24 UTC
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I have a lego model of a z114 - it is powered by a raspberry pi.
It does run my neck of the woods flavour of op-system (DOS/VS, et al).

In case someone wants to run anything other (I.E. VM or MVS) on the RPi
or want to just control the lights on 360/165 from a RPi-

The Debian (with herc but most components removed) is little under 1G.

give me holler and I send the bare wheezy with just herc, everything set
up to connect to my android (when tethering switched on) and the home
wifi (and of course LAN) and start (and stop) a herc-guest.

Be warned: it is slow and it is only good for the fun of it. I do
everything for the model on the desktop- only the final stuff gets
installed in the "114" (i.e. control the two front lights that indicate
current state from within the herc-guest)
--
Martin

Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE
more at http://www.picapcpu.de
Bob Brown
2013-05-10 15:33:44 UTC
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Please send pictures/videos and details..this sounds very cool!
-Bob

bbrown-***@public.gmane.org<mailto:bbrown-***@public.gmane.org> #### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace

From: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Martin Truebner
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 AM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [hercules-390] RPi to power a model



I have a lego model of a z114 - it is powered by a raspberry pi.
It does run my neck of the woods flavour of op-system (DOS/VS, et al).

In case someone wants to run anything other (I.E. VM or MVS) on the RPi
or want to just control the lights on 360/165 from a RPi-

The Debian (with herc but most components removed) is little under 1G.

give me holler and I send the bare wheezy with just herc, everything set
up to connect to my android (when tethering switched on) and the home
wifi (and of course LAN) and start (and stop) a herc-guest.

Be warned: it is slow and it is only good for the fun of it. I do
everything for the model on the desktop- only the final stuff gets
installed in the "114" (i.e. control the two front lights that indicate
current state from within the herc-guest)

--
Martin

Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE
more at http://www.picapcpu.de



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Steve and Grace Bovy
2013-05-10 16:16:26 UTC
Permalink
Here is my config-statement:

0E20-0E21 LCS -n ý6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10

Here Is my log:

22:55:13 Hercules Version 3.08
22:55:13 (c)Copyright 1999-2010 by Roger Bowler, Jan Jaeger, and others
22:55:13 Built on Dec 7 2012 at 23:30:33
22:55:13 Build information:
22:55:13 Windows (MSVC) build for AMD64
22:55:13 Modes: S/370 ESA/390 z/Arch
22:55:13 Max CPU Engines: 8
22:55:13 Using fthreads instead of pthreads
22:55:13 Dynamic loading support
22:55:13 Using shared libraries
22:55:13 HTTP Server support
22:55:13 No SIGABEND handler
22:55:13 Regular Expressions support
22:55:13 Automatic Operator support
22:55:13 Machine dependent assists: cmpxchg1 cmpxchg4 cmpxchg8
22:55:13 Running on WIN2008 Windows_NT-6.1 AMD64 MP=6
22:55:13 HHCHD018I Loadable module directory is hercules
22:55:13 Crypto module loaded (c) Copyright Bernard van der Helm, 2003-2010
22:55:13 Active: Message Security Assist
22:55:13 Message Security Assist Extension 1
22:55:13 Message Security Assist Extension 2
22:55:13 Message Security Assist Extension 3
22:55:13 Message Security Assist Extension 4
22:55:13 HHCHT001I HTTP listener thread started: tid=000006F8, pid=3640
22:55:13
comp=-1,compparm=-1,ra=9,raq=16,rat=16,wr=8,gcint=10,gcparm=4,nostress=0,
22:55:13 freepend=-1,fsync=0,trace=0,linuxnull=0
22:55:13 HHCPN197I Log option set: TIMESTAMP
22:55:13 HHCHT013I Using HTTPROOT directory "C:\hercules\R3.08-W64\html\"
22:55:13 HHCHT006I Waiting for HTTP requests on port 8081
22:55:13 HHCCF065I Hercules: tid=00000DD8, pid=3640, pgid=3640, priority=0
22:55:13 HHCTE001I Console connection thread started: tid=000002E0, pid=3640
22:55:13 HHCTE003I Waiting for console connection on port 3270

22:55:13 TunTap64.dll version 3.2.1.160 initiated
22:55:13 HHCTU002E Error opening TUN/TAP device: ý6C-62-6D-C0-94-26: Invalid
argument
22:55:13 HHCLC073I 0E20: TAP device opened
22:55:13 HHCLC074W TT32SDEVBUFF failed for device : Bad file descriptor.
22:55:13 HHCLC075W TT32SIOBUFF failed for device : Bad file descriptor.

22:55:13 0:0E20 3088 LCS Port 00 IP ()
22:55:13 0:0E21 3088 LCS Port 00 IP ()
22:55:13 panrate 1000
22:55:13 HHCPN011I Pausing SCRIPT file processing for 5 seconds...
22:55:14 HHCTE009I Client 127.0.0.1 connected to 3270 device 0:0701
22:55:14 HHCTE009I Client 127.0.0.1 connected to 3270 device 0:0700
22:55:18 HHCPN012I Resuming SCRIPT file processing...
22:55:18 ipl A81

22:56:56 HHCTU005E Invalid net device name specified:
22:56:56 HHCTU011E Invalid net device name specified:
22:56:56 HHCTU014E Invalid net device name specified:
22:56:56 HHCLC008E ioctl error on device : Bad file descriptor.
22:56:56 HHCTU016E Invalid net device name specified:
22:56:56 HHCLC042E Port 00: Read error: Bad file descriptor
22:56:56 HHCLC005E 0E21: Error writing to ý6C-62-6D-C0-94-26: Bad file
descriptor





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Jon Perryman
2013-05-10 17:18:53 UTC
Permalink
Tuntap has more requirements in Windows than in Linux. You don't mention whether
you installed winpcap and fishpack. You also need to ensure the first adapter
is the adapter you will be using. Hercules must also be RUN AS ADMIN in order to
access WinPcap.

Run TT32TEST (or TT64TEST) to see if you have your setup correct. It's output
is more useful than trying to find the problem in the Hercules log.

Jon Perryman.

----- Original Message ----
0E20-0E21 LCS -n ᅵ6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10
Steve and Grace Bovy
2013-05-10 19:38:50 UTC
Permalink
Thanks

I am very familiar with the setup requirements for windows

All things you mention have been met.

****************

This same set-up used to work .

But I had to shuffle things around and re-build and re-boot my machine

After the shuffle I now get this error

Very strange ( because I know for certain that the same set-up used to work )

That Is why I posted this request for help ( with the log )

I posted pertinent log messages which describe versions and the errors in question

If there are any additional debugging steps I should take to gather more "diagnostics" please advise

_____

From: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Jon Perryman
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:19 AM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows




Tuntap has more requirements in Windows than in Linux. You don't mention whether
you installed winpcap and fishpack. You also need to ensure the first adapter
is the adapter you will be using. Hercules must also be RUN AS ADMIN in order to
access WinPcap.

Run TT32TEST (or TT64TEST) to see if you have your setup correct. It's output
is more useful than trying to find the problem in the Hercules log.

Jon Perryman.

----- Original Message ----
0E20-0E21 LCS -n ᅵ6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10
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Steve and Grace Bovy
2013-05-10 19:59:25 UTC
Permalink
OMG (LOL) Egg On Face

I took another look at my previous post and another look at the traces

AND I just realized my config file had a garbage byte : Ü6C
0E20-0E21 LCS -n Ü6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10

So I went back and checked and sure enough the dang file was in utf8 !!

I do not know how it fell into utf8 mode

I switched it to ansi fixed the statement and now I am GOLDEN

Thanks to all for patiently bearing with my foolish questions

_____

From: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Steve and Grace Bovy
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:39 PM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows




Thanks

I am very familiar with the setup requirements for windows

All things you mention have been met.

****************

This same set-up used to work .

But I had to shuffle things around and re-build and re-boot my machine

After the shuffle I now get this error

Very strange ( because I know for certain that the same set-up used to work )

That Is why I posted this request for help ( with the log )

I posted pertinent log messages which describe versions and the errors in question

If there are any additional debugging steps I should take to gather more "diagnostics" please advise

_____

From: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Jon Perryman
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:19 AM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows

Tuntap has more requirements in Windows than in Linux. You don't mention whether
you installed winpcap and fishpack. You also need to ensure the first adapter
is the adapter you will be using. Hercules must also be RUN AS ADMIN in order to
access WinPcap.

Run TT32TEST (or TT64TEST) to see if you have your setup correct. It's output
is more useful than trying to find the problem in the Hercules log.

Jon Perryman.

----- Original Message ----
0E20-0E21 LCS -n ᅵ6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10
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Wayne Bickerdike
2013-05-10 20:39:07 UTC
Permalink
Steve,

Good to hear you have it working again.

Would you mind posting your TCPIP PROFILE and a brief discussion of how
your network is set up?

I have a few questions that I can't seem to tie all the pieces together.

I have never been successful in getting an FTP transfer from the guest back
to the Windows box. I can ftp up but not the other way (using a Filezilla
server in Windows).

I use a Microsoft Loopback adapter not my Windows NIC.

I have a second box running Ubuntu Linux and FTP works in both directions
using the tun adapter.

Thanks,

Wayne
**
OMG (LOL) Egg On Face
I took another look at my previous post and another look at the traces
AND I just realized my config file had a garbage byte : Ü6C
0E20-0E21 LCS -n Ü6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10
So I went back and checked and sure enough the dang file was in utf8 !!
I do not know how it fell into utf8 mode
I switched it to ansi fixed the statement and now I am GOLDEN
Thanks to all for patiently bearing with my foolish questions
_____
On Behalf Of Steve and Grace Bovy
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Thanks
I am very familiar with the setup requirements for windows
All things you mention have been met.
****************
This same set-up used to work .
But I had to shuffle things around and re-build and re-boot my machine
After the shuffle I now get this error
Very strange ( because I know for certain that the same set-up used to work )
That Is why I posted this request for help ( with the log )
I posted pertinent log messages which describe versions and the errors in question
If there are any additional debugging steps I should take to gather more
"diagnostics" please advise
_____
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Jon Perryman
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Tuntap has more requirements in Windows than in Linux. You don't mention whether
you installed winpcap and fishpack. You also need to ensure the first adapter
is the adapter you will be using. Hercules must also be RUN AS ADMIN in order to
access WinPcap.
Run TT32TEST (or TT64TEST) to see if you have your setup correct. It's output
is more useful than trying to find the problem in the Hercules log.
Jon Perryman.
----- Original Message ----
sg.bovy%40ca.rr.com> <mailto:sg.bovy%40ca.rr.com> >
0E20-0E21 LCS -n ᅵ6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Wayne V. Bickerdike


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Steve and Grace Bovy
2013-05-11 05:20:44 UTC
Permalink
Sure I will give it a try maybe tomorow

_____

From: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 1:39 PM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows




Steve,

Good to hear you have it working again.

Would you mind posting your TCPIP PROFILE and a brief discussion of how
your network is set up?

I have a few questions that I can't seem to tie all the pieces together.

I have never been successful in getting an FTP transfer from the guest back
to the Windows box. I can ftp up but not the other way (using a Filezilla
server in Windows).

I use a Microsoft Loopback adapter not my Windows NIC.

I have a second box running Ubuntu Linux and FTP works in both directions
using the tun adapter.

Thanks,

Wayne
**
OMG (LOL) Egg On Face
I took another look at my previous post and another look at the traces
AND I just realized my config file had a garbage byte : Ü6C
0E20-0E21 LCS -n Ü6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10
So I went back and checked and sure enough the dang file was in utf8 !!
I do not know how it fell into utf8 mode
I switched it to ansi fixed the statement and now I am GOLDEN
Thanks to all for patiently bearing with my foolish questions
_____
On Behalf Of Steve and Grace Bovy
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Thanks
I am very familiar with the setup requirements for windows
All things you mention have been met.
****************
This same set-up used to work .
But I had to shuffle things around and re-build and re-boot my machine
After the shuffle I now get this error
Very strange ( because I know for certain that the same set-up used to work )
That Is why I posted this request for help ( with the log )
I posted pertinent log messages which describe versions and the errors in question
If there are any additional debugging steps I should take to gather more
"diagnostics" please advise
_____
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Jon Perryman
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Tuntap has more requirements in Windows than in Linux. You don't mention whether
you installed winpcap and fishpack. You also need to ensure the first adapter
is the adapter you will be using. Hercules must also be RUN AS ADMIN in order to
access WinPcap.
Run TT32TEST (or TT64TEST) to see if you have your setup correct. It's output
is more useful than trying to find the problem in the Hercules log.
Jon Perryman.
----- Original Message ----
sg.bovy%40ca.rr.com> <mailto:sg.bovy%40ca.rr.com> >
0E20-0E21 LCS -n ᅵ6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Wayne V. Bickerdike

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stevebovy
2013-05-14 01:31:18 UTC
Permalink
I just discovered, I have the same problem you are currently experiencing. I do not think it is you network set-up. I think we
are having some type of routing problem. Maybe similar to what used to occur on windows xp where you ahd to install the ARP protocol drivers

Fish are you listening ?

I am having this problem on windows 2008 r2 x64

Out-going name resolution and out-going pings work. But incoming
pings are not answered.
Post by Steve and Grace Bovy
Sure I will give it a try maybe tomorow
_____
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Steve,
Good to hear you have it working again.
Would you mind posting your TCPIP PROFILE and a brief discussion of how
your network is set up?
I have a few questions that I can't seem to tie all the pieces together.
I have never been successful in getting an FTP transfer from the guest back
to the Windows box. I can ftp up but not the other way (using a Filezilla
server in Windows).
I use a Microsoft Loopback adapter not my Windows NIC.
I have a second box running Ubuntu Linux and FTP works in both directions
using the tun adapter.
Thanks,
Wayne
**
OMG (LOL) Egg On Face
I took another look at my previous post and another look at the traces
AND I just realized my config file had a garbage byte : Ü6C
0E20-0E21 LCS -n Ü6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10
So I went back and checked and sure enough the dang file was in utf8 !!
I do not know how it fell into utf8 mode
I switched it to ansi fixed the statement and now I am GOLDEN
Thanks to all for patiently bearing with my foolish questions
_____
On Behalf Of Steve and Grace Bovy
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Thanks
I am very familiar with the setup requirements for windows
All things you mention have been met.
****************
This same set-up used to work .
But I had to shuffle things around and re-build and re-boot my machine
After the shuffle I now get this error
Very strange ( because I know for certain that the same set-up used to work )
That Is why I posted this request for help ( with the log )
I posted pertinent log messages which describe versions and the errors in question
If there are any additional debugging steps I should take to gather more
"diagnostics" please advise
_____
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Jon Perryman
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Tuntap has more requirements in Windows than in Linux. You don't mention whether
you installed winpcap and fishpack. You also need to ensure the first adapter
is the adapter you will be using. Hercules must also be RUN AS ADMIN in order to
access WinPcap.
Run TT32TEST (or TT64TEST) to see if you have your setup correct. It's output
is more useful than trying to find the problem in the Hercules log.
Jon Perryman.
----- Original Message ----
sg.bovy%40ca.rr.com> <mailto:sg.bovy%40ca.rr.com> >
0E20-0E21 LCS -n ᅵ6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
Wayne V. Bickerdike
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Urtzi Larrieta Alvarez
2013-05-14 07:32:18 UTC
Permalink
Hi:

You must to disable the TCP and UDP checksum offload settings in the
hardware manager properties of your network card. Is a workaround solution
while Fish updates his fishlibs to a newer NDIS driver (Windows 2008 and
Windows 7 have newer than NDIS6.x drivers).

This fixes the routing problem.

Regards,

Urtzi Larrieta
Post by stevebovy
**
I just discovered, I have the same problem you are currently experiencing.
I do not think it is you network set-up. I think we
are having some type of routing problem. Maybe similar to what used to
occur on windows xp where you ahd to install the ARP protocol drivers
Fish are you listening ?
I am having this problem on windows 2008 r2 x64
Out-going name resolution and out-going pings work. But incoming
pings are not answered.
Sure I will give it a try maybe tomorow
_____
On Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Steve,
Good to hear you have it working again.
Would you mind posting your TCPIP PROFILE and a brief discussion of how
your network is set up?
I have a few questions that I can't seem to tie all the pieces together.
I have never been successful in getting an FTP transfer from the guest
back
to the Windows box. I can ftp up but not the other way (using a Filezilla
server in Windows).
I use a Microsoft Loopback adapter not my Windows NIC.
I have a second box running Ubuntu Linux and FTP works in both directions
using the tun adapter.
Thanks,
Wayne
**
OMG (LOL) Egg On Face
I took another look at my previous post and another look at the traces
AND I just realized my config file had a garbage byte : Ü6C
0E20-0E21 LCS -n Ü6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10
So I went back and checked and sure enough the dang file was in utf8 !!
I do not know how it fell into utf8 mode
I switched it to ansi fixed the statement and now I am GOLDEN
Thanks to all for patiently bearing with my foolish questions
_____
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Steve and Grace Bovy
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:39 PM
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Thanks
I am very familiar with the setup requirements for windows
All things you mention have been met.
****************
This same set-up used to work .
But I had to shuffle things around and re-build and re-boot my machine
After the shuffle I now get this error
Very strange ( because I know for certain that the same set-up used to work )
That Is why I posted this request for help ( with the log )
I posted pertinent log messages which describe versions and the errors
in
question
If there are any additional debugging steps I should take to gather
more
"diagnostics" please advise
_____
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Jon Perryman
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:19 AM
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Tuntap has more requirements in Windows than in Linux. You don't
mention
whether
you installed winpcap and fishpack. You also need to ensure the first adapter
is the adapter you will be using. Hercules must also be RUN AS ADMIN in order to
access WinPcap.
Run TT32TEST (or TT64TEST) to see if you have your setup correct. It's output
is more useful than trying to find the problem in the Hercules log.
Jon Perryman.
----- Original Message ----
sg.bovy%40ca.rr.com> <mailto:sg.bovy%40ca.rr.com> >
0E20-0E21 LCS -n ᅵ6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A
192.168.1.10
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
Wayne V. Bickerdike
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Steve and Grace Bovy
2013-05-14 15:47:43 UTC
Permalink
Thanks,

Forgive my addled brain for being slightly foggy on my memories.

Yes, in fact I dealt with this before and forgot. After I searched back
thru the archives
I found my previous detailed thread discussion with Fish on this topic.

-----Original Message-----
From: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org] On
Behalf Of Urtzi Larrieta Alvarez
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 12:32 AM
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Re: Please Help with TunTap On Windows

Hi:

You must to disable the TCP and UDP checksum offload settings in the
hardware manager properties of your network card. Is a workaround solution
while Fish updates his fishlibs to a newer NDIS driver (Windows 2008 and
Windows 7 have newer than NDIS6.x drivers).

This fixes the routing problem.

Regards,

Urtzi Larrieta
Post by stevebovy
**
I just discovered, I have the same problem you are currently experiencing.
I do not think it is you network set-up. I think we are having some
type of routing problem. Maybe similar to what used to occur on
windows xp where you ahd to install the ARP protocol drivers
Fish are you listening ?
I am having this problem on windows 2008 r2 x64
Out-going name resolution and out-going pings work. But incoming pings
are not answered.
Sure I will give it a try maybe tomorow
_____
On Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Steve,
Good to hear you have it working again.
Would you mind posting your TCPIP PROFILE and a brief discussion of
how your network is set up?
I have a few questions that I can't seem to tie all the pieces together.
I have never been successful in getting an FTP transfer from the guest
back
to the Windows box. I can ftp up but not the other way (using a
Filezilla server in Windows).
I use a Microsoft Loopback adapter not my Windows NIC.
I have a second box running Ubuntu Linux and FTP works in both
directions using the tun adapter.
Thanks,
Wayne
**
OMG (LOL) Egg On Face
I took another look at my previous post and another look at the traces
AND I just realized my config file had a garbage byte : Ü6C
0E20-0E21 LCS -n Ü6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10
So I went back and checked and sure enough the dang file was in utf8 !!
I do not know how it fell into utf8 mode
I switched it to ansi fixed the statement and now I am GOLDEN
Thanks to all for patiently bearing with my foolish questions
_____
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
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On Behalf Of Steve and Grace Bovy
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:39 PM
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Thanks
I am very familiar with the setup requirements for windows
All things you mention have been met.
****************
This same set-up used to work .
But I had to shuffle things around and re-build and re-boot my machine
After the shuffle I now get this error
Very strange ( because I know for certain that the same set-up used to work )
That Is why I posted this request for help ( with the log )
I posted pertinent log messages which describe versions and the errors
in
question
If there are any additional debugging steps I should take to gather
more
"diagnostics" please advise
_____
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Jon Perryman
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:19 AM
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Tuntap has more requirements in Windows than in Linux. You don't
mention
whether
you installed winpcap and fishpack. You also need to ensure the
first adapter is the adapter you will be using. Hercules must also
be RUN AS ADMIN in order to access WinPcap.
Run TT32TEST (or TT64TEST) to see if you have your setup correct.
It's output is more useful than trying to find the problem in the
Hercules log.
Jon Perryman.
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Wayne Bickerdike
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Does this apply for a virtual/emulated NIC? ie the Microsoft Loopback Adapter.

These questions have been going on for years and I've never had a
successful configuration in any flavour of Windows. Linux, no problem.

So I'll try and ask again. Can someone post a complete configuration
and a howto on any routing that is necessary?

Thanks.



On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Urtzi Larrieta Alvarez
Post by Urtzi Larrieta Alvarez
You must to disable the TCP and UDP checksum offload settings in the
hardware manager properties of your network card. Is a workaround solution
while Fish updates his fishlibs to a newer NDIS driver (Windows 2008 and
Windows 7 have newer than NDIS6.x drivers).
This fixes the routing problem.
Regards,
Urtzi Larrieta
Post by stevebovy
**
I just discovered, I have the same problem you are currently experiencing.
I do not think it is you network set-up. I think we
are having some type of routing problem. Maybe similar to what used to
occur on windows xp where you ahd to install the ARP protocol drivers
Fish are you listening ?
I am having this problem on windows 2008 r2 x64
Out-going name resolution and out-going pings work. But incoming
pings are not answered.
Sure I will give it a try maybe tomorow
_____
On Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Steve,
Good to hear you have it working again.
Would you mind posting your TCPIP PROFILE and a brief discussion of how
your network is set up?
I have a few questions that I can't seem to tie all the pieces together.
I have never been successful in getting an FTP transfer from the guest
back
to the Windows box. I can ftp up but not the other way (using a Filezilla
server in Windows).
I use a Microsoft Loopback adapter not my Windows NIC.
I have a second box running Ubuntu Linux and FTP works in both directions
using the tun adapter.
Thanks,
Wayne
**
OMG (LOL) Egg On Face
I took another look at my previous post and another look at the traces
AND I just realized my config file had a garbage byte : Ü6C
0E20-0E21 LCS -n Ü6C-62-6D-C0-94-26 -m 00-00-5E-A8-01-0A 192.168.1.10
So I went back and checked and sure enough the dang file was in utf8 !!
I do not know how it fell into utf8 mode
I switched it to ansi fixed the statement and now I am GOLDEN
Thanks to all for patiently bearing with my foolish questions
_____
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Steve and Grace Bovy
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:39 PM
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Thanks
I am very familiar with the setup requirements for windows
All things you mention have been met.
****************
This same set-up used to work .
But I had to shuffle things around and re-build and re-boot my machine
After the shuffle I now get this error
Very strange ( because I know for certain that the same set-up used to work )
That Is why I posted this request for help ( with the log )
I posted pertinent log messages which describe versions and the errors
in
question
If there are any additional debugging steps I should take to gather
more
"diagnostics" please advise
_____
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Jon Perryman
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:19 AM
hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] Please Help with TunTap On Windows
Tuntap has more requirements in Windows than in Linux. You don't
mention
whether
you installed winpcap and fishpack. You also need to ensure the first adapter
is the adapter you will be using. Hercules must also be RUN AS ADMIN in order to
access WinPcap.
Run TT32TEST (or TT64TEST) to see if you have your setup correct. It's output
is more useful than trying to find the problem in the Hercules log.
Jon Perryman.
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192.168.1.10
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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George
2013-05-11 00:10:07 UTC
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I found this on an auction site today:

Lot of Mainframe and Equipment. System was working when shut down. Sold
as is. Items as follows:

1-IBM zSeries 800 Type Mainframe –Model#2066-002, Serial#02-1BAAA.
Specs: 8 Gb central memory, 5 Processor MultiChip Module, 2 (2-port)
OSA-Express Adapters (Gigabit Ethernet) w/cables, 4 (16-port) ESCON
cards w/cables, Dual Management Laptops, HMC Console Server (6792-LPU).
1-IBM Console Support Controller-Model#2074-002, Serial#02-118A7. Specs:
Integrated ESCON adapter, Up to 64 Console Sessions (TN3270E Emulation),
Supports Ethernet (10Mb/s), Fast Ethernet (100 MB/s), 4 and 16 Mb Token
Ring. 1-IBM 3590 Tape SubSystem, Model#3590-A60, Serial#7848941. Specs:
3590-A60 Controller, 2 (2-Port) ESCON Adapter Cards w/cables, Magstar
Model E Drives, 4 (3590-E11) Drives. 2-IBM First Generation Controller,
Model#3174-01L, Serial#23-M3635, 23-AY634. Specs: S/370 Channel (Bus and
Tag) w/cables, 32 (3270) or 24 (ASCII) Ports. 9-Optica Technologies Inc.
ESCON Converter, Model#34600. Specs: Model 34600 FXBT ESCON to Bus/Tag
Converter, Provides ESCON FX (CBY, CVC) to Bus/Tag Conversion at Rated
Speeds. 1-BARR Systems Channel Attach Box Rev. 7, Model#245161.
4-Magstart Model E Drives, Model#3590-E11, Serial#78F6537, 78F6779,
78F6758, 78F6886.

Anyone interested?


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Robert Duncan
2013-05-11 01:14:31 UTC
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It makes me wish I'd hit a Powerball jackpot, George!

It would be great if a member of the Hercules groups could snap this one up. I wonder how much floor space would be needed???

Yours truly,

Robert S. Duncan
 
Please check out my You Tube channel: ==> dosvsoperator!!!


________________________________
From: George <George-sAN7FIG+***@public.gmane.org>
To: hercules-390-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 6:10 PM
Subject: [hercules-390] Real Mainframe Anyone???


I found this on an auction site today:

Lot of Mainframe and Equipment. System was working when shut down. Sold
as is. Items as follows:

1-IBM zSeries 800 Type Mainframe –Model#2066-002, Serial#02-1BAAA.
Specs: 8 Gb central memory, 5 Processor MultiChip Module, 2 (2-port)
OSA-Express Adapters (Gigabit Ethernet) w/cables, 4 (16-port) ESCON
cards w/cables, Dual Management Laptops, HMC Console Server (6792-LPU).
1-IBM Console Support Controller-Model#2074-002, Serial#02-118A7. Specs:
Integrated ESCON adapter, Up to 64 Console Sessions (TN3270E Emulation),
Supports Ethernet (10Mb/s), Fast Ethernet (100 MB/s), 4 and 16 Mb Token
Ring. 1-IBM 3590 Tape SubSystem, Model#3590-A60, Serial#7848941. Specs:
3590-A60 Controller, 2 (2-Port) ESCON Adapter Cards w/cables, Magstar
Model E Drives, 4 (3590-E11) Drives. 2-IBM First Generation Controller,
Model#3174-01L, Serial#23-M3635, 23-AY634. Specs: S/370 Channel (Bus and
Tag) w/cables, 32 (3270) or 24 (ASCII) Ports. 9-Optica Technologies Inc.
ESCON Converter, Model#34600. Specs: Model 34600 FXBT ESCON to Bus/Tag
Converter, Provides ESCON FX (CBY, CVC) to Bus/Tag Conversion at Rated
Speeds. 1-BARR Systems Channel Attach Box Rev. 7, Model#245161.
4-Magstart Model E Drives, Model#3590-E11, Serial#78F6537, 78F6779,
78F6758, 78F6886.

Anyone interested?


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2013-05-11 01:34:13 UTC
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I'm a complete newbie at hercules, and mainframe hardware... but I checked
the auction for this and it's not what I'd call "terribly expensive". But
- wouldn't the "harder part" be all the software that would need to be
gathered to run on this?

Thanks for putting up with the dumb question...
Post by Robert Duncan
**
It makes me wish I'd hit a Powerball jackpot, George!
It would be great if a member of the Hercules groups could snap this one
up. I wonder how much floor space would be needed???
Yours truly,
Robert S. Duncan
Please check out my You Tube channel: ==> dosvsoperator!!!
________________________________
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 6:10 PM
Subject: [hercules-390] Real Mainframe Anyone???
Lot of Mainframe and Equipment. System was working when shut down. Sold
1-IBM zSeries 800 Type Mainframe –Model#2066-002, Serial#02-1BAAA.
Specs: 8 Gb central memory, 5 Processor MultiChip Module, 2 (2-port)
OSA-Express Adapters (Gigabit Ethernet) w/cables, 4 (16-port) ESCON
cards w/cables, Dual Management Laptops, HMC Console Server (6792-LPU).
Integrated ESCON adapter, Up to 64 Console Sessions (TN3270E Emulation),
Supports Ethernet (10Mb/s), Fast Ethernet (100 MB/s), 4 and 16 Mb Token
3590-A60 Controller, 2 (2-Port) ESCON Adapter Cards w/cables, Magstar
Model E Drives, 4 (3590-E11) Drives. 2-IBM First Generation Controller,
Model#3174-01L, Serial#23-M3635, 23-AY634. Specs: S/370 Channel (Bus and
Tag) w/cables, 32 (3270) or 24 (ASCII) Ports. 9-Optica Technologies Inc.
ESCON Converter, Model#34600. Specs: Model 34600 FXBT ESCON to Bus/Tag
Converter, Provides ESCON FX (CBY, CVC) to Bus/Tag Conversion at Rated
Speeds. 1-BARR Systems Channel Attach Box Rev. 7, Model#245161.
4-Magstart Model E Drives, Model#3590-E11, Serial#78F6537, 78F6779,
78F6758, 78F6886.
Anyone interested?
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http://www.hercules-390.org
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Tony Harminc
2013-05-11 02:06:30 UTC
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Post by gary marbach
I'm a complete newbie at hercules, and mainframe hardware... but I checked
the auction for this and it's not what I'd call "terribly expensive". But
- wouldn't the "harder part" be all the software that would need to be
gathered to run on this?
Thanks for putting up with the dumb question...
Well... First of all there were two bids when I looked just now, and
it ain't over til it's over. But that said, I don't think this pile is
worth a great deal today. Probably the tape drives are the most
valuable part in the commercial market, and maybe the 3174s for
hobbyists.

You are quite right about software; this hardware won't run anything
affordable except Linux. In particular, it won't run older free OSs
like MVS 3.8.

But in my view the biggest problem for most hobbyists will be
transporting it all. Unless you happen to live in Raleigh, it will
cost a bunch. And maybe even if you do live there, since these places
tend not to allow you to just rent a truck and drive it up; they often
want to see insurance and real movers and safety gear and such.

Tony H.
Urtzi Larrieta Alvarez
2013-05-11 11:04:59 UTC
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Hi:

Another issue here is that the auction comes with no DASD at all, so you
couldn't install any operating system on it, unless you use the system with
standalone programs, IPLing them from tape.

In my honest opinion, 2.500 $USD is a bit expensive for such a old system
(z800 has now 12 years old) and incomplete thing, but, then, if anyone is
interested, go ahead.

Regards,

Urtzi Larrieta
Post by Steve and Grace Bovy
**
Post by gary marbach
I'm a complete newbie at hercules, and mainframe hardware... but I
checked
Post by gary marbach
the auction for this and it's not what I'd call "terribly expensive". But
- wouldn't the "harder part" be all the software that would need to be
gathered to run on this?
Thanks for putting up with the dumb question...
Well... First of all there were two bids when I looked just now, and
it ain't over til it's over. But that said, I don't think this pile is
worth a great deal today. Probably the tape drives are the most
valuable part in the commercial market, and maybe the 3174s for
hobbyists.
You are quite right about software; this hardware won't run anything
affordable except Linux. In particular, it won't run older free OSs
like MVS 3.8.
But in my view the biggest problem for most hobbyists will be
transporting it all. Unless you happen to live in Raleigh, it will
cost a bunch. And maybe even if you do live there, since these places
tend not to allow you to just rent a truck and drive it up; they often
want to see insurance and real movers and safety gear and such.
Tony H.
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George
2013-05-11 12:16:27 UTC
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Everyone is correct in the ability to run anything really useful on this
configuration. I was thinking about taking some of the pieces such as
the tape drives, 3174's and the 2074 controller and using them apart
from the mainframe itself.

There was also another posting on that same site that had a somewhat
recent DS8000 DASD array with 20TB.

Just making information available in case others haven't seen it.

George
Post by Tony Harminc
Post by gary marbach
I'm a complete newbie at hercules, and mainframe hardware... but I checked
the auction for this and it's not what I'd call "terribly expensive". But
- wouldn't the "harder part" be all the software that would need to be
gathered to run on this?
Thanks for putting up with the dumb question...
Well... First of all there were two bids when I looked just now, and
it ain't over til it's over. But that said, I don't think this pile is
worth a great deal today. Probably the tape drives are the most
valuable part in the commercial market, and maybe the 3174s for
hobbyists.
You are quite right about software; this hardware won't run anything
affordable except Linux. In particular, it won't run older free OSs
like MVS 3.8.
But in my view the biggest problem for most hobbyists will be
transporting it all. Unless you happen to live in Raleigh, it will
cost a bunch. And maybe even if you do live there, since these places
tend not to allow you to just rent a truck and drive it up; they often
want to see insurance and real movers and safety gear and such.
Tony H.
------------------------------------
bh_mayor
2013-06-03 02:21:04 UTC
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Bob, et alia:

If indeed it is your intention to run what might otherwise be considered a reasonably responsive instantiation of say, MVS 3.8 using Hercules on a computer platform that is palm sized, you may find yourself being quite well served by considering devices such as DreamPlugs and the like.


Stuart
Post by Bob Brown
Please send pictures/videos and details..this sounds very cool!
-Bob
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 AM
Subject: [hercules-390] RPi to power a model
I have a lego model of a z114 - it is powered by a raspberry pi.
It does run my neck of the woods flavour of op-system (DOS/VS, et al).
In case someone wants to run anything other (I.E. VM or MVS) on the RPi
or want to just control the lights on 360/165 from a RPi-
The Debian (with herc but most components removed) is little under 1G.
give me holler and I send the bare wheezy with just herc, everything set
up to connect to my android (when tethering switched on) and the home
wifi (and of course LAN) and start (and stop) a herc-guest.
Be warned: it is slow and it is only good for the fun of it. I do
everything for the model on the desktop- only the final stuff gets
installed in the "114" (i.e. control the two front lights that indicate
current state from within the herc-guest)
--
Martin
Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE
more at http://www.picapcpu.de
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Gregg Levine
2013-06-03 02:26:43 UTC
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Post by bh_mayor
If indeed it is your intention to run what might otherwise be considered a reasonably responsive instantiation of say, MVS 3.8 using Hercules on a computer platform that is palm sized, you may find yourself being quite well served by considering devices such as DreamPlugs and the like.
Stuart
Post by Bob Brown
Please send pictures/videos and details..this sounds very cool!
-Bob
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 AM
Subject: [hercules-390] RPi to power a model
I have a lego model of a z114 - it is powered by a raspberry pi.
It does run my neck of the woods flavour of op-system (DOS/VS, et al).
In case someone wants to run anything other (I.E. VM or MVS) on the RPi
or want to just control the lights on 360/165 from a RPi-
The Debian (with herc but most components removed) is little under 1G.
give me holler and I send the bare wheezy with just herc, everything set
up to connect to my android (when tethering switched on) and the home
wifi (and of course LAN) and start (and stop) a herc-guest.
Be warned: it is slow and it is only good for the fun of it. I do
everything for the model on the desktop- only the final stuff gets
installed in the "114" (i.e. control the two front lights that indicate
current state from within the herc-guest)
--
Martin
Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE
more at http://www.picapcpu.de
Hello!
I'm already running VM/370rel6 on my Raspberry Pi. As it happens the
only telling point was that of watching the activity traces on
something I have running on mine.

As it happens I've not had a chance to try out either DOS/VS or MVS
under VM whilst making use of Hercules (what else?) on a Raspberry Pi.
Only because I've not seen appropriate instructions for setting up a
guest via VM that way.
-----
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Cory Smelosky
2013-06-03 02:57:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gregg Levine
Post by bh_mayor
If indeed it is your intention to run what might otherwise be considered a reasonably responsive instantiation of say, MVS 3.8 using Hercules on a computer platform that is palm sized, you may find yourself being quite well served by considering devices such as DreamPlugs and the like.
Stuart
Post by Bob Brown
Please send pictures/videos and details..this sounds very cool!
-Bob
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 AM
Subject: [hercules-390] RPi to power a model
I have a lego model of a z114 - it is powered by a raspberry pi.
It does run my neck of the woods flavour of op-system (DOS/VS, et al).
In case someone wants to run anything other (I.E. VM or MVS) on the RPi
or want to just control the lights on 360/165 from a RPi-
The Debian (with herc but most components removed) is little under 1G.
give me holler and I send the bare wheezy with just herc, everything set
up to connect to my android (when tethering switched on) and the home
wifi (and of course LAN) and start (and stop) a herc-guest.
Be warned: it is slow and it is only good for the fun of it. I do
everything for the model on the desktop- only the final stuff gets
installed in the "114" (i.e. control the two front lights that indicate
current state from within the herc-guest)
--
Martin
Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE
more at http://www.picapcpu.de
Hello!
I'm already running VM/370rel6 on my Raspberry Pi. As it happens the
only telling point was that of watching the activity traces on
something I have running on mine.
So the performance isn't bad?
Post by Gregg Levine
As it happens I've not had a chance to try out either DOS/VS or MVS
under VM whilst making use of Hercules (what else?) on a Raspberry Pi.
Only because I've not seen appropriate instructions for setting up a
guest via VM that way.
That is what's kept me from running MVS under VM, too. ;)
Post by Gregg Levine
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Gregg Levine
2013-06-03 03:06:19 UTC
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Post by Cory Smelosky
Post by Gregg Levine
Post by bh_mayor
If indeed it is your intention to run what might otherwise be considered
a reasonably responsive instantiation of say, MVS 3.8 using Hercules on a
computer platform that is palm sized, you may find yourself being quite well
served by considering devices such as DreamPlugs and the like.
Stuart
Post by Bob Brown
Please send pictures/videos and details..this sounds very cool!
-Bob
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace
On Behalf Of Martin Truebner
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:22 AM
Subject: [hercules-390] RPi to power a model
I have a lego model of a z114 - it is powered by a raspberry pi.
It does run my neck of the woods flavour of op-system (DOS/VS, et al).
In case someone wants to run anything other (I.E. VM or MVS) on the RPi
or want to just control the lights on 360/165 from a RPi-
The Debian (with herc but most components removed) is little under 1G.
give me holler and I send the bare wheezy with just herc, everything set
up to connect to my android (when tethering switched on) and the home
wifi (and of course LAN) and start (and stop) a herc-guest.
Be warned: it is slow and it is only good for the fun of it. I do
everything for the model on the desktop- only the final stuff gets
installed in the "114" (i.e. control the two front lights that indicate
current state from within the herc-guest)
--
Martin
Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE
more at http://www.picapcpu.de
Hello!
I'm already running VM/370rel6 on my Raspberry Pi. As it happens the
only telling point was that of watching the activity traces on
something I have running on mine.
So the performance isn't bad?
Post by Gregg Levine
As it happens I've not had a chance to try out either DOS/VS or MVS
under VM whilst making use of Hercules (what else?) on a Raspberry Pi.
Only because I've not seen appropriate instructions for setting up a
guest via VM that way.
That is what's kept me from running MVS under VM, too. ;)
Post by Gregg Levine
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Hello!
Performance is on a par with my Intel rig.Or when running Hercules
here on this laptop. My only problem is with the Debian method of
installing things.

Indeed the routines for setting up a guest are rather difficult. In
fact there exists a prebuilt arrangement which contains the features
to support a guest.

-----
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Mike Stramba
2013-06-03 17:31:08 UTC
Permalink
Myy only problem is with the Debian method of
installing things.
Indeed the routines for setting up a guest are rather difficult. In
fact there exists a prebuilt arrangement which contains the features
to support a guest.
What are the "routines for setting up a guest" ?

I don't have a PI, but shouldn't setting up a guest should be the same
regardless of the
platform ?

============== platform independent ?? ===========
1) Move / copy host "herc-dasd-cckd" files to appropriate directory

2) Modify hercules.cnf

3) Modify VM directory file
====================================

4) Run Hercules on PI

5) ??? Connect via tn3270 to PI over network ?? ... or does the PI
run X windows, and can the tn3270 emulator be run from it ?

Mike
Dave
2013-06-03 17:39:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mike Stramba
Myy only problem is with the Debian method of
installing things.
Indeed the routines for setting up a guest are rather difficult. In
fact there exists a prebuilt arrangement which contains the features
to support a guest.
What are the "routines for setting up a guest" ?
I don't have a PI, but shouldn't setting up a guest should be the same
regardless of the
platform ?
============== platform independent ?? ===========
1) Move / copy host "herc-dasd-cckd" files to appropriate directory
2) Modify hercules.cnf
3) Modify VM directory file
====================================
4) Run Hercules on PI
5) ??? Connect via tn3270 to PI over network ?? ... or does the PI
run X windows, and can the tn3270 emulator be run from it ?
It can run X-Windows or I guess you could run multiple ANSI type
consoles using LINUX virtual consoles. It even has a serial port so you
can have a real terminal running normal TN3270...
Post by Mike Stramba
Mike
----------------
M***@public.gmane.org
2013-06-03 18:25:45 UTC
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Mike,
... setting up a guest should be the same regardless of the
platform ?

I have one (in fact i originated this thread) and I can tell: it is no
different at all....all I do is install herc; copy config files; copy
guest disks; run it.

I did not attempt to use the TUN or any other interface aside of the
tn3270

it is a model (this is just a reminder)
--
Martin

Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE
more at http://www.picapcpu.de
paoloG
2013-06-03 12:32:40 UTC
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snipped <
So the performance isn't bad?
I installed Hercules on various ARM based NAS - ranging from 0.5 to 1.2 Mhz.

According to various benchmarks I ran on them I can foresee a MIPS rate of 1.5-2.0 for the RPi.

As soon as I'll put my handa on one of them I'll publish all the benchmark results :).
Post by Gregg Levine
As it happens I've not had a chance to try out either DOS/VS or MVS
under VM whilst making use of Hercules (what else?) on a Raspberry Pi.
Only because I've not seen appropriate instructions for setting up a
guest via VM that way.
That is what's kept me from running MVS under VM, too. ;)
To run another OS in a Virtual Machine is the ABC of VM ;-)
Post by Gregg Levine
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M***@public.gmane.org
2013-06-03 14:03:47 UTC
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Paolo,
... a MIPS rate of 1.5-2.0 for the RPi.
when I start hercules from a console and use the esc key it shows
something between 0.7 and 0.9 MIPS when running 100% and it runs a lot
at 100% when starting debian (weezy) then z/VSE then CICS/TS

But it is only a model and it is just for fun.
--
Martin

Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE
more at http://www.picapcpu.de
Cory Smelosky
2013-06-03 14:44:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by paoloG
snipped <
So the performance isn't bad?
I installed Hercules on various ARM based NAS - ranging from 0.5 to 1.2 Mhz.
According to various benchmarks I ran on them I can foresee a MIPS rate of 1.5-2.0 for the RPi.
Neat! Wasn't the system/360 or 370 about 1 MIPS?
Post by paoloG
As soon as I'll put my handa on one of them I'll publish all the benchmark results :).
Post by Gregg Levine
As it happens I've not had a chance to try out either DOS/VS or MVS
under VM whilst making use of Hercules (what else?) on a Raspberry Pi.
Only because I've not seen appropriate instructions for setting up a
guest via VM that way.
That is what's kept me from running MVS under VM, too. ;)
To run another OS in a Virtual Machine is the ABC of VM ;-)
Post by Gregg Levine
-----
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
------------------------------------
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
------------------------------------
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-390
http://www.hercules-390.org
Yahoo! Groups Links
--
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http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
Mike Schwab
2013-06-03 23:10:05 UTC
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Post by Cory Smelosky
Post by paoloG
snipped <
So the performance isn't bad?
I installed Hercules on various ARM based NAS - ranging from 0.5 to 1.2 Mhz.
According to various benchmarks I ran on them I can foresee a MIPS rate of 1.5-2.0 for the RPi.
Neat! Wasn't the system/360 or 370 about 1 MIPS?
--
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